More Haynesworth Drama? Big Al Sounds Off After Ravens Game

[diehard]

I hope I'm never within arm's reach of this guy. Too many people want something for nothing.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I am not sure if he is worth it. Much less am I saying because he defends teamates he is worth it.
My only point is in my opinion some of you guys in an attempt to be funny incorrectly threw around the word pussy and I am just trying to point it out.
Haynesworth being a selfish ass and letting his teammates and fans down is many negative things. But pussy is not the right word. That is all. A pussy is someone who backs down from a fight because he is afraid. Not someone who runs into a fight to defend a friend and teamate.

I was the one who called Haynesworth a pussy. I was not trying to be funny. I was trying to accurately describe my feelings toward him. I'm satisfied with it.

When I saw that SS had started this thread, and closed all other Haynesworth threads, in an effort to instill more civility I was a little confused since I didn't notice anyone taking the issue personally. It appears that I have offended you by calling Haynesworth a pussy, and for that I am sorry.

I will say that we differ in our opinions of what makes a pussy. Just because a guy plays the macho tough-guy act does not mean he is not a pussy. I don't respect machismo. To me a pussy is a guy who has no mental fortitude. A guy who cannot persevere. A guy with no self-discipline. That guy is Albert Haynesworth.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

This ass clown would have never made it in the old school football days. the NFL has definitely gotten soft and unfortunately the evolution of the game has breeded the Irvins, Keyshawns and TO's of the world. None of these so called "players" would have gotten away with their shenanigans on a team with say, a Jim Brown or Dick Butkus or John Riggins or Larry Czonka or Conrad Dobler to name a few. Haynesworth represents everything negative about professional sports accross the board. His sense of entitlement, imagined sense of persecution and subsequent media tirades are the direct result of an overpaid, self important, propped up baby. No ONE player is worth putting up with all the baggage he brings. Just another major blunder left over from the Cerrato years. It's a big shit sandwich and the Washington Redskins are gonna have to take a couple of big ole bites.

THANK YOU. Doubt those old legends would be defending him, and saying, "Oh but he's a tough guy who stands up for his teammates." What a freaking joke.

[Bigreds77]

On Big Al I heard she is feeling better & she will play next week.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

"Stupidest thing ever said on this board"

- I know he is a pain in our ass, but cut arguably the best DT in the entire league??????

Talk about fvckin foolish.

And Defensewins. Did you need 6 straight posts in a row to get your point across? LOL. Brainstorm, THEN post. Get it all together, THEN post!!!!!

you're an idiot. i never said that.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

I would just like to say that I'm tired of the "arguably best DT in the league" nonsense. AH is not even close to the best DT in the league, unless you don't value things like: teamwork, commitment, and discipline. It's sad that the absence of those qualities doesn't seem to affect how people rank him among his peers. He's still at the top, even though he can't function on any team, and you can't count on him for anything.

[MTK]

AH just doesn't get it, and it's obvious he never will.

What annoys me most about all this is he's a constant reminder of what's been ailing this franchise since Snyder took over. It's unbelievable that after all the bad moves that have come through Redskins Park, we're sitting here today talking about perhaps the worst of one of them all.

I just don't see where he's worth the trouble. Trade him for anything you can get. I don't care if it's only a 7th rounder. And if it comes down to it, I would seriously considering cutting him.

[Mechanix544]

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you're an idiot. i never said that. vvvvvvvvvvvvv

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I just think it's time to move on and we should cut the guy. He's really not that good of a player and the defense played well w/out him last year. They seemed to play very well w/out him last night. We've got a new regime here and he doesn't fit well with the new staff. Enough of this bullshit drama. Just cut his lazy crybaby ass.

So, thats not what you said???? I'm an idiot? Know what comes out of your cock holster before blasting me for being an idiot.:tongue

On another note, I just think cutting him without ANY compensation is dumb. It might happen, but I sure hope it doesn't. He IS a good talent, and at this point, I hope we could get at least a 3rd rounder for him, or a decent WR. I think that the teams willing to offer that up are few and far between tho, so here is to hopin'.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

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you're an idiot. i never said that. vvvvvvvvvvvvv

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So, thats not what you said???? I'm an idiot? Know what comes out of your cock holster before blasting me for being an idiot.:tongue

On another note, I just think cutting him without ANY compensation is dumb. It might happen, but I sure hope it doesn't. He IS a good talent, and at this point, I hope we could get at least a 3rd rounder for him, or a decent WR. I think that the teams willing to offer that up are few and far between tho, so here is to hopin'.

Yes that is what I said. I though you said that I thought he was the best DT in the league..whatever mis understanding. Bottom line is he is not the best DT in the league. Not even close and when he's not on the field there is not a drop off. Cut our losses and time to move on.

[hail_2_da_skins]

Fat Albert is a prim a dona. His attitude and work ethic is the cancer that the new regime is trying to kill. I'm in Shanny's corner. Fat Albert is too good of a player to just let walk, but he has to be a professional. A professional takes his job seriously and puts the work in. Fat Albert is a product of the times. He has this sense of entitlement but doesn't have the work ethic. This is an internal team problem. It's time for the veteran leadership to pull Fat Albert over to the side and find out is he with the team or is he going to be a sideshow. If is going to continue to be a sideshow, the team needs to send him packing. I've yet to see this so called "Best Defense Tackle in the Game" perform for a complete game. His fat ass needs to get with the program.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes that is what I said. I though you said that I thought he was the best DT in the league..whatever mis understanding. Bottom line is he is not the best DT in the league. Not even close and when he's not on the field there is not a drop off. Cut our losses and time to move on.

Look, I know that everyone wants to take the hardline on this malcontent, and I understand that. But remember this..............

-Over 45 million dollars........repeat, 45 million dollars. What a tough pill to swallow, even for the free spending Snyder.

-Marketability = ZERO. Obviously noone wants the guy, we have been More than dangling him around as trade bait, and not even a nibble.

-Talent = High. If, and this is a big IF, but IF Shanahan can get this guy to literally get with the program, and he could conceed just a little bit of ground and offer somewhat of an olive branch and just start over, the rewards could be sky high. Its all about ego, and if Shanahan is serious about a title, then doing it with Haynesworth will be alot easier.

A motivated and content Haynesworth is desirable, and if anyone can get him to play, its Shanahan.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Look, I know that everyone wants to take the hardline on this malcontent, and I understand that. But remember this..............

-Over 45 million dollars........repeat, 45 million dollars. What a tough pill to swallow, even for the free spending Snyder.

-Marketability = ZERO. Obviously noone wants the guy, we have been More than dangling him around as trade bait, and not even a nibble.

-Talent = High. If, and this is a big IF, but IF Shanahan can get this guy to literally get with the program, and he could conceed just a little bit of ground and offer somewhat of an olive branch and just start over, the rewards could be sky high. Its all about ego, and if Shanahan is serious about a title, then doing it with Haynesworth will be alot easier.

A motivated and content Haynesworth is desirable, and if anyone can get him to play, its Shanahan.

I think your 2nd and 3rd points are the most relevant. I still wish we could have done a three way deal with seattle and sd but AH has pretty much ruined his value in this league. As for the money, tough patooties to Snyder. He signed the contract (albeit in good faith) and if he has to write it off then that's that, that's part of the cost of getting this franchise headed in the new (hopefully right) direction. After Saturday's speech by AH, I doubt there is any reconciliation with MS possible. And MS didn't leave any doubt or wiggle room for AH to go through this season half-assing it as he has been accused of doing in the past.

Somebody, maybe Fletcher?, needs to take AH out and tell him he needs to shut up, get with the program, and help this team win. If it hasn't happened yet, I doubt it will going forward.

[MTK]

At this point I have zero faith that AH will just miraculously come around, fall in line, and get with the program. He's already saying he's going to be a no-show for next year's offseason program. He is what he is, a turd.

As much as it would hurt to cut him outright, I would rather go that route than let him continue to be a distraction in the locker room. Sometimes you just have to own up to a bad decision and cut your losses.

[SolidSnake84]

This makes Shanahan look like a bitch for letting Albert trash him and the rest of the team, and MS not doing anything about it.

Jim Zorn let people walk all over him, especially CP, but now it looks like its the same old same old....

[MTK]

Shanahan will have the last laugh. Guaranteed.