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08-03-2010, 11:06 AM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
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I was gonna post this w/ my earlier post but got caught up at work/practice. http://www.testsportsclubs.com/cms/L...g%3D&tabid=94& mid=682 MAXIMIZING MOTION BY JENNY VRENTAS AND ANDRE MALOK When quarterbacks do their position drills at the NFL Combine, team scouts and personnel are eager for a live look at how they throw the football. Quarterbacks are taken through a battery of drills that assess attributes such as their grip on the ball and their footwork. They are also clocked with a radar gun to measure the velocity with which they throw on an out route. Basic physics can show us how velocity translates to the football field, using the 20-yard out as a benchmark for a quarterback’s pro-readiness. At the 2008 NFL Combine, Ravens first-round pick and TEST client Joe Flacco — who had a meteoric rise up the draft boards last spring — set the mark for throwing velocity at 58 mph. “He separated himself from just about everybody by the velocity of the ball,” said Flacco’s agent, Joe Linta, “though it’s really one factor in the whole process.” The flight of a football can be calculated using equations for projectile motion, if air drag is neglected. Quote:
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08-03-2010, 11:07 AM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
Not exited about this move, because he is 29.
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08-03-2010, 11:10 AM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
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08-03-2010, 11:25 AM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
Damn, now I want to know what Colt's ball speed was (and JC's too, for that matter). Great post, 30gut.
Flacco's passes really have some zip on them compared to our 2009 QBs though. Caught a couple Ravens games.
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08-03-2010, 11:31 AM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
The bottom line is this...who is a better long term prospect Beck or Colt?. I'd say that's about even. So why make this deal?
Does anyone know if this is about practice squad eligibility or something? Otherwise, this makes little sense...other than the skins doing a favor for Doug Dutch and letting Colt go early to give him a chance elsewhere.
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08-03-2010, 11:42 AM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
Boils down to Kyle S. likes Beck more.
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08-03-2010, 12:28 PM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
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08-03-2010, 12:49 PM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
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Go to Youtube and search John Beck 70 Yards. This is a common misconception that Beck has lived with since ending his career with BYU. The guy has a rocket arm. In fact, in the Combine in 2007 he had the 2nd strongest arm in throwing. How that is not NFL-ready has always been beyond me. |
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08-03-2010, 12:54 PM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
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However, he is 29 of unused potential, rather than 29 and having been beat up in the NFL for a number of years. Most 29 year old QB's in the NFL have more wear and tear on them at this point. Not so with Beck. I wouldn't be too concerned about what you've got here. When I have more time, I'll give you a Beck Fan's perspective, after having watched every game he played in in college, and throughout his NFL career (which could have been much better). |
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08-03-2010, 12:59 PM
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08-03-2010, 01:04 PM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
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This one? The ball only traveled 64 yards in the air though.
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08-03-2010, 01:04 PM
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08-03-2010, 01:05 PM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
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This one? The ball only traveled 64 yards in the air though. Look what else I found:
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08-03-2010, 01:07 PM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
just watched a few spots on Beck.. I think from being in such a slinging atmosphere he never really learned how to make proper reads/look defenders off
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08-03-2010, 01:13 PM
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Re: Redskins Acquire QB John Beck (for CB Doug Dutch)
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McMahon was, but he wasn't really that great of a QB, just on great teams. Ty Detmer, Steve Sarkisian, Robbie Bosco...all flops after BYU. They just run a system that works incredibly against college defenses, but it doesn't transition well to the NFL. They're a lot like Florida Gator QBs and their transition to the NFL.
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