New coaches who?

Miller101 · 09-28-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Green1

If Zorn is fired who would you get to replace him? He are my top guys: Cowher, Holmgren, Marriucci, Gruden, Mike Shanahan, Tony Dungy.

Call me a homer if you want to, but I like Russ Grimm. I think he would need an offensive coordinator. But, He would get this team fired up to play Detroit and St. Louis. And he hates that team in Texas probably more than most of us do. And certainly more than any of the coaches you mentioned. He'd be a good fit. We'd be playing Redskins Football once again with him here.

irish · 09-28-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Miller101

Call me a homer if you want to, but I like Russ Grimm. I think he would need an offensive coordinator. But, He would get this team fired up to play Detroit and St. Louis. And he hates that team in Texas probably more than most of us do. And certainly more than any of the coaches you mentioned. He'd be a good fit. We'd be playing Redskins Football once again with him here.

No he wouldnt. Nobody could. These guys have no heart or motivation to play Redskins football.

Ruhskins · 09-28-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

No he wouldnt. Nobody could. These guys have no heart or motivation to play Redskins football.

You should save yourself time and put this as your signature...and you should join the avatar mutiny.

Miller101 · 09-28-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

No he wouldnt. Nobody could. These guys have no heart or motivation to play Redskins football.

Then he would cut them, bench them, or kick the crap out of them. He wouldn't put up with any half ass crap! You know he wouldn't!

irish · 09-28-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Miller101

Then he would cut them, bench them, or kick the crap out of them. He wouldn't put up with any half ass crap! You know he wouldn't!

He wouldnt have a choice because when he tried to cut them or kick their a$$ they'd go to DS an whine & complain and DS would side with the players like he always does. No decent self respecting coach would come here because they know they dont have ultimate authority with the team, the owner does.

Miller101 · 09-28-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

He wouldnt have a choice because when he tried to cut them or kick their a$$ they'd go to DS an whine & complain and DS would side with the players like he always does. No decent self respecting coach would come here because they know they dont have ultimate authority with the team, the owner does.

So what are trying to say then!?!?!? That the stinking sky is falling!?!?? Its not! Remember Lavar Arrington? He whined to Danny Boy and Danny said, "Don't talk to me". Remember Coles? He whined to Danny and Danny offered to buy him a big screen TV so he wouldn't miss any games! LOL!!!

Gibbs did alright when he was here. And gosh dangit Russ can too!

hail_2_da_skins · 09-28-2009, 11:44 AM

On NBC's Football Night in America, Dan Patrick, Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison were discussed the Redskins problems. Here is what they had to say.

Harrison: "It's many problems dealing with the Washington Redskins. One problem in particular is Jason Campbell, the quarterback. I don't know what they see in this guy. To me, he's a backup quarterback that's been elevated to a starter. He's a guy that's unpredictable. He's inconsistent. He's not a guy that defensive players look at and fear."

Dungy: "I wouldn't blame it all on the quarterback. He threw for a lot of yards today. They're having trouble scoring. I think it goes to a bigger thing, maybe an organizational thing. It's always new free agents, new players, all-star guys. They need to build a team concept there."

Patrick: "It seems like Daniel Snyder treats it like it's a fantasy league team. You bring in [Albert] Haynesworth. They were trying to get Sanchez. They're always looking for something different. There's no core there."

Dungy: "It's not always getting the best players. It's building a good team, building a team that everyone has confidence in, and, right now, they don't have confidence."

I think Dungy knows exactly what's wrong with the Skins. The Skins need to rebuild from Vinny on down. Unfortunately, until they make that type of commitment, they will not be able to retain a quality coach like Dungy, Cowher or Gruden.

irish · 09-28-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

On NBC's Football Night in America, Dan Patrick, Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison were discussed the Redskins problems. Here is what they had to say.

Harrison: "It's many problems dealing with the Washington Redskins. One problem in particular is Jason Campbell, the quarterback. I don't know what they see in this guy. To me, he's a backup quarterback that's been elevated to a starter. He's a guy that's unpredictable. He's inconsistent. He's not a guy that defensive players look at and fear."

Dungy: "I wouldn't blame it all on the quarterback. He threw for a lot of yards today. They're having trouble scoring. I think it goes to a bigger thing, maybe an organizational thing. It's always new free agents, new players, all-star guys. They need to build a team concept there."

Patrick: "It seems like Daniel Snyder treats it like it's a fantasy league team. You bring in [Albert] Haynesworth. They were trying to get Sanchez. They're always looking for something different. There's no core there."

Dungy: "It's not always getting the best players. It's building a good team, building a team that everyone has confidence in, and, right now, they don't have confidence."

I think Dungy knows exactly what's wrong with the Skins. The Skins need to rebuild from Vinny on down. Unfortunately, until they make that type of commitment, they will not be able to retain a quality coach like Dungy, Cowher or Gruden.

I totally agree. This teams needs rebuilt. Dungy sees it crystal clear.

12thMan · 09-28-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I totally agree. This teams needs rebuilt. Dungy sees it crystal clear.

Yup. The other arguments: it's Zorn, it's Campbell, it's Blache, it's this and that. Totally irrelevant. The guy, whomever that is, we need to take us to the promise land just doesn't want the job.

irish · 09-28-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Yup. The other arguments: it's Zorn, it's Campbell, it's Blache, it's this and that. Totally irrelevant. The guy, whomever that is, we need to take us to the promise land just doesn't want the job.

Yep. The guy wont take the job and the players that are here just dont have what it takes.

70Chip · 09-28-2009, 11:00 PM

Bill Cowher is not the answer. Without the culture that exists in Pittsburgh, I would be surprised if he was capable of winning more than 6 games a year. His replacement was more successful, more quickly than he was. Besides, Cowher won't be able to help the offense. And he wouldn't have Dick LeBeau, who we all know was and is the real genius behind Pittsburgh's success.

tryfuhl · 09-29-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Yup. The other arguments: it's Zorn, it's Campbell, it's Blache, it's this and that. Totally irrelevant. The guy, whomever that is, we need to take us to the promise land just doesn't want the job.

Dungy would never let Snyder bring in a crazy "MY GOD IS IN A VOLCANO" nutjob to talk to him either.

12thMan · 09-28-2009, 11:53 AM

There was a time when I wasn't buying the idea that the Skins needed a GM or that Vinny was the problem. But what I'm starting to see is, even if he isn't, most successful football minded people just won't come here. They see it after a few interviews. So I see no way possible that another coach or drafting good players are the solution. We can't attract the type of leadership it takes to establish a winning culture. The environment is toxic. Coaches can't coach and players aren't motivated. And I think that's what Dan Snyder has been missing.

We'll win some games here and there, but unless Snyder stops tinkering along the margins I don't see a Lombardi coming here for a good while.

But hey, it's his team.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-28-2009, 12:01 PM

Yeah we all need to wake up to the fact. That it can;t be done the way it is being done now. Vinny and Danny need a divorce. Dan needs to bring in football guys and leave the team alone. Dan should be worrying about how he is going to make more money not how he can come in and effect the football team.

NO self repsecting good coach will come here to coach under the current management structure. Until this fundamental changes inside the organization we are truly doomed.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-29-2009, 12:08 AM

If Zorn is fired during the season look for Shanahan who can step in and call the plays and be the HC. After the season id like to see Cowher and a new GM. My 2

09-28-2009, 11:44 AM	#7
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 69 Posts: 868	Re: New coaches who? On NBC's Football Night in America, Dan Patrick, Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison were discussed the Redskins problems. Here is what they had to say. Harrison: "It's many problems dealing with the Washington Redskins. One problem in particular is Jason Campbell, the quarterback. I don't know what they see in this guy. To me, he's a backup quarterback that's been elevated to a starter. He's a guy that's unpredictable. He's inconsistent. He's not a guy that defensive players look at and fear." Dungy: "I wouldn't blame it all on the quarterback. He threw for a lot of yards today. They're having trouble scoring. I think it goes to a bigger thing, maybe an organizational thing. It's always new free agents, new players, all-star guys. They need to build a team concept there." Patrick: "It seems like Daniel Snyder treats it like it's a fantasy league team. You bring in [Albert] Haynesworth. They were trying to get Sanchez. They're always looking for something different. There's no core there." Dungy: "It's not always getting the best players. It's building a good team, building a team that everyone has confidence in, and, right now, they don't have confidence." I think Dungy knows exactly what's wrong with the Skins. The Skins need to rebuild from Vinny on down. Unfortunately, until they make that type of commitment, they will not be able to retain a quality coach like Dungy, Cowher or Gruden. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

09-28-2009, 11:00 PM	#11
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: New coaches who? Bill Cowher is not the answer. Without the culture that exists in Pittsburgh, I would be surprised if he was capable of winning more than 6 games a year. His replacement was more successful, more quickly than he was. Besides, Cowher won't be able to help the offense. And he wouldn't have Dick LeBeau, who we all know was and is the real genius behind Pittsburgh's success. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

09-28-2009, 11:53 AM	#13
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: New coaches who? There was a time when I wasn't buying the idea that the Skins needed a GM or that Vinny was the problem. But what I'm starting to see is, even if he isn't, most successful football minded people just won't come here. They see it after a few interviews. So I see no way possible that another coach or drafting good players are the solution. We can't attract the type of leadership it takes to establish a winning culture. The environment is toxic. Coaches can't coach and players aren't motivated. And I think that's what Dan Snyder has been missing. We'll win some games here and there, but unless Snyder stops tinkering along the margins I don't see a Lombardi coming here for a good while. But hey, it's his team. Last edited by 12thMan; 09-28-2009 at 12:04 PM.

09-28-2009, 12:01 PM	#14
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: New coaches who? Yeah we all need to wake up to the fact. That it can;t be done the way it is being done now. Vinny and Danny need a divorce. Dan needs to bring in football guys and leave the team alone. Dan should be worrying about how he is going to make more money not how he can come in and effect the football team. NO self repsecting good coach will come here to coach under the current management structure. Until this fundamental changes inside the organization we are truly doomed. __________________ Just win.

09-29-2009, 12:08 AM	#15
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: New coaches who? If Zorn is fired during the season look for Shanahan who can step in and call the plays and be the HC. After the season id like to see Cowher and a new GM. My 2 __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

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