Zorn On The Hot Seat

BrunellMVP? · 09-27-2009, 06:37 PM

Zorn is clearly over his head, but I'm not sure he gets fired tomorrow. I'd understand it if he did though. I think we need to have a revolt as skins fans. we need to demand that the organization be held accountable for its complete and total failure. Synder needs to be less hands on (i don't hate him like others do), we need a GM, we need Vinny out (or at least a diminished role). we need a structural overhaul- and we needed it 5 years ago.

Skinny Tee · 09-27-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I understand your sarcasm. They have had the fewest caoches and th emost superbowls. Go figure. What a weird concept. lol

On that note. Lets get Cowher this offseason!!!!

Yeah...let's do that and then allow him time to create his own coaching atomosphere and player personnel.

As long as we give him time and let ONLY HIM control his own fate with no outside influence then seriously I'll take anybody.

Skinny Tee · 09-27-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

Zorn is clearly over his head, but I'm not sure he gets fired tomorrow. I'd understand it if he did though. I think we need to have a revolt as skins fans. we need to demand that the organization be held accountable for its complete and total failure. Synder needs to be less hands on (i don't hate him like others do), we need a GM, we need Vinny out (or at least a diminished role). we need a structural overhaul- and we needed it 5 years ago.

You're a better man than me because my Snyder hate is seething right now.

My Cerrato hate pretty much parallels my Snyder hate but Snyder controls the employment status of Cerrato so thus the greater amount of hate there.

Dirtbag59 · 09-27-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the players should go all "Seinfeld" on some fans and go boo them. That'd be great

Please explain this one. I am limited when it comes to Seinfeld references.

Ruhskins · 09-27-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

You're a better man than me because my Snyder hate is seething right now.

My Cerrato hate pretty much parallels my Snyder hate but Snyder controls the employment status of Cerrato so thus the greater amount of hate there.

So no hate for the guys actually calling the plays?

Green1 · 09-27-2009, 06:54 PM

We need to keep the D and Offensive schemes the same. A west coast coach to take Zorn's place. The D will be fine they have carried the team the first 3 weeks so the D is not the problem. Zorn is.

GusFrerotte · 09-27-2009, 07:00 PM

Sad fact is the FO doesn't have a structural plan in place to build a long term winner. The dumb draft moves we make are a clear signal to this, along with the totaly insane over the top FA spending. Wasn't it Gibbs last draft where we drafted 3 RB's when we already had our current RB lineup in place? Orakpo was a really nice pickup at the time, but I think he is going to end up a so so player in terms of impact for us and will be let go once his contract is up. I know it is really early to say that, but he isn't an impact player thus far like Arrington, Taylor, Bailey, or Smoot were as rooks. We needed to go O line first and always until you get at least 4 quality linemen.

GusFrerotte · 09-27-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Green1

We need to keep the D and Offensive schemes the same. A west coast coach to take Zorn's place. The D will be fine they have carried the team the first 3 weeks so the D is not the problem. Zorn is.

That is not a good idea for the fact is we have a Gibbs personnel team for a WCo offense. The big speedy Wr's should be used for a long north south passing attack. Look at our lack of offensive production in terms of scoring. THe WCO sucks rocks. JC was stuck hitting Moss and co on the short underneath routes all day, but only 7 points to account for it. You have a QB that loves the long ball and a new WR corp built for the long ball. Moss is a long ball WR and always will be. I say bury the WCO!!!! It is a relic of the 80's-90's!!!!!!!!!

SFREDSKIN · 09-27-2009, 08:11 PM

Source: Washington Redskins coach Jim Zorn safe ... for now - ESPN

Green1 · 09-27-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

That is not a good idea for the fact is we have a Gibbs personnel team for a WCo offense. The big speedy Wr's should be used for a long north south passing attack. Look at our lack of offensive production in terms of scoring. THe WCO sucks rocks. JC was stuck hitting Moss and co on the short underneath routes all day, but only 7 points to account for it. You have a QB that loves the long ball and a new WR corp built for the long ball. Moss is a long ball WR and always will be. I say bury the WCO!!!! It is a relic of the 80's-90's!!!!!!!!!

If we want to win now we cannot change the systems again.

SFREDSKIN · 09-27-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

That is not a good idea for the fact is we have a Gibbs personnel team for a WCo offense. The big speedy Wr's should be used for a long north south passing attack. Look at our lack of offensive production in terms of scoring. THe WCO sucks rocks. JC was stuck hitting Moss and co on the short underneath routes all day, but only 7 points to account for it. You have a QB that loves the long ball and a new WR corp built for the long ball. Moss is a long ball WR and always will be. I say bury the WCO!!!! It is a relic of the 80's-90's!!!!!!!!!

You are right my friend, we have never been a WCO team and all of sudden we became one over night. I don't think our personnel is built for a WCO as much as an Air Coryell offense. Maybe if Zorn gets canned that we should hire Cam Cameron so that he can bring us back to the offense that we know and love. Air Coryell!!

JLee9718 · 09-27-2009, 08:59 PM

I think the only way for Zorn to save his job is to change quarterbacks and he'll never do that.

MTK · 09-27-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JLee9718

I think the only way for Zorn to save his job is to change quarterbacks and he'll never do that.

And he shouldn't. If we can't win with JC it's certainly not going to happen with Collins.

Skinny Tee · 09-27-2009, 09:31 PM

Our problems don't change just because Zorn is fired.

We need a resolution to our problems as a whole.

Skinny Tee · 09-27-2009, 10:16 PM

They'll be some head coaching vacanies around the NFL after this football season. When Zorn gets his second head coaching gig on another team this offseason things shouldn't be so stressful for him.

Good luck on next year's head coaching gig Zorn.

09-27-2009, 06:37 PM	#91
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Zorn is clearly over his head, but I'm not sure he gets fired tomorrow. I'd understand it if he did though. I think we need to have a revolt as skins fans. we need to demand that the organization be held accountable for its complete and total failure. Synder needs to be less hands on (i don't hate him like others do), we need a GM, we need Vinny out (or at least a diminished role). we need a structural overhaul- and we needed it 5 years ago. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

09-27-2009, 06:54 PM	#96
Green1 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 121	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat We need to keep the D and Offensive schemes the same. A west coast coach to take Zorn's place. The D will be fine they have carried the team the first 3 weeks so the D is not the problem. Zorn is.

09-27-2009, 07:00 PM	#97
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Sad fact is the FO doesn't have a structural plan in place to build a long term winner. The dumb draft moves we make are a clear signal to this, along with the totaly insane over the top FA spending. Wasn't it Gibbs last draft where we drafted 3 RB's when we already had our current RB lineup in place? Orakpo was a really nice pickup at the time, but I think he is going to end up a so so player in terms of impact for us and will be let go once his contract is up. I know it is really early to say that, but he isn't an impact player thus far like Arrington, Taylor, Bailey, or Smoot were as rooks. We needed to go O line first and always until you get at least 4 quality linemen.

09-27-2009, 08:11 PM	#99
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Source: Washington Redskins coach Jim Zorn safe ... for now - ESPN __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

09-27-2009, 08:59 PM	#102
JLee9718 Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 573	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat I think the only way for Zorn to save his job is to change quarterbacks and he'll never do that.

09-27-2009, 09:31 PM	#104
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat Our problems don't change just because Zorn is fired. We need a resolution to our problems as a whole. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

09-27-2009, 10:16 PM	#105
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Zorn On The Hot Seat They'll be some head coaching vacanies around the NFL after this football season. When Zorn gets his second head coaching gig on another team this offseason things shouldn't be so stressful for him. Good luck on next year's head coaching gig Zorn. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

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