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Old 10-15-2007, 01:30 PM   #91
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This hating is crazy. It was a hard fought game.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:38 PM   #92
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Campbell rushed his read on that 4th down, he had McCardell wide freaking open but he just rushed and dumped it to Betts. I'll chalk that up to his inexperience and not anything to do with bad coaching.
He did rush his read because he is inexperienced and the coaches know he is inexperienced. Why not (after burning a timeout to think about what to do) call a play with a primary read that is past the 1st down marker? The coaches should have expected him to rush the read andif he did the team would have a 1st down and if he didnt they might have more than that.

I still think there are too many offensive cooks in the kitchen. The team either need to let Gibbs call the plays or Saunders call the plays but both is not working well.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:40 PM   #93
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He did rush his read because he is inexperienced and the coaches know he is inexperienced. Why not (after burning a timeout to think about what to do) call a play with a primary read that is past the 1st down marker? The coaches should have expected him to rush the read andif he did the team would have a 1st down and if he didnt they might have more than that.

I still think there are too many offensive cooks in the kitchen. The team either need to let Gibbs call the plays or Saunders call the plays but both is not working well.
How do you know Betts was the first read?
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:42 PM   #94
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How do you know Betts was the first read?
Aikman said he was.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:51 PM   #95
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Aikman said he was.
I don't like Aikman as one of the broadcasters/commentators in the booth for the redskins games. He just pretends to be unbaised, but if you notice - he will discretely say negative comments and critize the redskins (especially critical with Campbell's decisions), but say only good things about the opposition.

Campbell made the wrong read, he should have waited a split second longer, Smoot is lucky that he wasn't called for the force out - I never heard that before in my life: being lucky for not being called for a force out. Pay attention, it's like he subliminally injects these thoughts into your head. I wanted to put it on mute, but I like to hear the game.

Oh yeah, I like the criticism of Campbell's long passes being too flat. I don't know if I agree with him or not, but I don't want him making me think like a damn cowboy like that. Because that's also the first time I heard something like that too - a pass being too flat.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:54 PM   #96
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i thought our coaching on both sides of the ball was on point. i would have liked to have seen more running plays in the second half but with all the injuries on the O line the coaches had to adjust accordingly i suppose. Gibbs has said "we had a good game plan we just didnt execute it" in past games were the general fan consensus was that the play calling hurt us, not the players.

Well this game to me looked like we had a great gameplan but our players didnt execute. I am not worried, we have a good team and our coaches are starting to click. I just hope the injuries to our O-line do not prove to be too great a handicap the rest of the season.

We cant be the smash-mouth, protect the ball, run the possession clock and get big play action pass play team we are built for if we dont have our hogs (samuels, thomas, rabach, jansen, and kendall) out there. idk, im still tryin to digest this all but i see true progress from the coaches compared to years past.

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Old 10-15-2007, 01:59 PM   #97
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I don't like Aikman as one of the broadcasters/commentators in the booth for the redskins games. He just pretends to be unbaised, but if you notice - he will discretely say negative comments and critize the redskins (especially critical with Campbell's decisions), but say only good things about the opposition.

Campbell made the wrong read, he should have waited a split second longer, Smoot is lucky that he wasn't called for the force out - I never heard that before in my life: being lucky for not being called for a force out. Pay attention, it's like he subliminally injects these thoughts into your head. I wanted to put it on mute, but I like to hear the game.

Oh yeah, I like the criticism of Campbell's long passes being too flat. I don't know if it's true yet or not, but I don't want him making me think like a damn cowboy like that. Because that's also the first time I heard something like that too - a pass being too flat.
Smoot never looked at the ball he just stuck his hands up in the receivers face. Thats illegal and thats what he was talking about.

JC does not get to pick his reads, he starts at 1 if he's open he gets the ball, if not he goes to 2 and so on. The primary read was open and he gave him the ball. He made the correct read according to the play.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:02 PM   #98
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I don't know anything else to say. Speechless. Our defense is too good for this.
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You and the rest of the defense played great. The wideouts need to remember the fundamentals. Any one of those drops could have changed the outcome of the game. I think things will get better ..one bad game doesn't turn a good player into a bad one. JC put up a great effort with little help. I just wonder where the intensity is in the receivers. Looking at them during the game, they didn't seem very amped up.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:04 PM   #99
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Smoot never looked at the ball he just stuck his hands up in the receivers face. Thats illegal and thats what he was talking about.
Smoot didn't and shouldn't have been penalized on that play. That play was legal - I never saw his hands in his facemask or anything like that. If you are saying that he was blocking his vision of the pass/ball without touching the receiver - that is perfectly legal.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:05 PM   #100
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Aikman said he was.
Well if he was perhaps it was Betts fault for not getting deep enough on his route.

Either way I don't think we have conclusive enough evidence to say it was a coaching blunder. Not when there was a wide open guy that JC flat out didn't see. The play was there, the execution was not.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:06 PM   #101
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I don't like Aikman as one of the broadcasters/commentators in the booth for the redskins games. He just pretends to be unbaised, but if you notice - he will discretely say negative comments and critize the redskins (especially critical with Campbell's decisions), but say only good things about the opposition.

Campbell made the wrong read, he should have waited a split second longer, Smoot is lucky that he wasn't called for the force out - I never heard that before in my life: being lucky for not being called for a force out. Pay attention, it's like he subliminally injects these thoughts into your head. I wanted to put it on mute, but I like to hear the game.

Oh yeah, I like the criticism of Campbell's long passes being too flat. I don't know if I agree with him or not, but I don't want him making me think like a damn cowboy like that. Because that's also the first time I heard something like that too - a pass being too flat.
I guess if you want to spin it that way, but I don't buy it personally.

Aikman is pretty fair and balanced with all the games he does. I've heard him say plenty of positive things in regard to the Redskins. It all depends on what you choose to hear.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:10 PM   #102
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I guess if you want to spin it that way, but I don't buy it personally.

Aikman is pretty fair and balanced with all the games he does. I've heard him say plenty of positive things in regard to the Redskins. It all depends on what you choose to hear.
I agree. For my money, Aikman and Buck are as good as it gets, and that includes Madden and Michaels. The only reason they had Albert and not Buck yesterday is b/c Buck did the ALCS on Fox Saturday night.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:10 PM   #103
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Smoot didn't and shouldn't have been penalized on that play. That play was legal - I never say his hands in his facemask or anything like that. If you are saying that he was blocking his vision of the pass/ball without touching the receiver - that is perfectly legal.
No its not. Its called face guarding and its illegal.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:10 PM   #104
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I guess if you want to spin it that way, but I don't buy it personally.

Aikman is pretty fair and balanced with all the games he does. I've heard him say plenty of positive things in regard to the Redskins. It all depends on what you choose to hear.
That's what I thought until I listened closely. I just don't remember him saying something positive about the redskins without also saying something negative.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:11 PM   #105
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I don't know anything else to say. Speechless. Our defense is too good for this.
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You and the rest of the defense played great. The wideouts need to remember the fundamentals. Any one of those drops could have changed the outcome of the game. I think things will get better ..one bad game doesn't turn a good player into a bad one. JC put up a great effort with little help. I just wonder where the intensity is in the receivers. Looking at them during the game, they didn't seem very amped up.
Keep doing what you're doing. We love you guys. You are the best.
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