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12-18-2019, 10:15 PM | #1 |
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I vote Republican 98% of the time and for the most part I cannot stand Trump. Although the fact he annoys the hell out of liberals and is in their heads 24-7 brings me great joy. Also seeing all the Clinton voters crying on election night was a memory I have that was almost as good as any other in my life. Every time I think about it I laugh my ass off.
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12-19-2019, 05:15 AM | #2 | |
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So to you it had nothing to do with what was good for the Country only what made others mad,piss others off? Enabler.
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12-19-2019, 09:18 AM | #3 |
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I can't think of a politician I hate more than Hillary Clinton. She is as vile of a human being as Trump, she just has a filter. She would eat her children to be president. I probably would have voted democrat if it was anyone other than Hillary.
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12-19-2019, 07:07 AM | #4 | |
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Take the bias out. And the impeachment didn’t mean nothing because of the constitution but because the case made by the dems is weak. You don’t remove an Democratic elected president without established high crimes and misdemeanors. This was a political stunt...the constitution laughs at this bullshit. This isn’t the ex soviet eastern block country or a banana republic
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12-19-2019, 09:16 AM | #5 | |
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Yet trump tries to run it like it is. He "obstructed Chico" , you don't like it but he did , ask Nixon it's a no no.
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12-19-2019, 11:29 AM | #6 |
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Trump's impeachment comes off like a vote of no confidence like that used in European parliaments. But we don't have a mechanism like that so the pols are trying to use impeachment as a stand in. It won't achieve their desired results -Trump's removal- but as G1 said it tarnishes his legacy for historical value.
As long as the country sits at a near 50 50 split, and we get candidates like HC and Trump, we will see more of this from both sides. And both sides media heads will scream why the current case is different from the last one. I hope everyone will be able to tell their grandchildren what the US was like when we stood united in common purposes. It seems like a fairy tale even now. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk |
12-19-2019, 12:18 PM | #7 | |
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Speaking of I find it incredible how the impeachment has basically covered up the report that just came out detailing the amazingly pervasive corruption in Afghanistan. Every American should be united in how angry they are that we've spent almost a trillion dollars in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it. Also +1 on another fantastic post Schneed. I agree in that even if Trump loses the White House in 2020, this country is doomed to continue heading down this path. Also Chico, I agree. Two of the most prudent actions we can take would be eliminating lobbyist influence on Congress and term limits. I think the one thing we could all agree on is term limits for Congress. The problem is Congress has no incentive to vote for term limits on themselves. |
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12-19-2019, 01:09 PM | #8 | |
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12-19-2019, 01:36 PM | #9 |
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I simplified it, but if he hadn't been getting head in the WH he wouldn't have been impeached because there would be nothing to lie about.
I guess we hold lying to a different standard now. If Trump isn't lying about the Ukraine, why doesn't he release the verbatim transcript from the classified system it's being held in? Surely that would prove all 8 witnesses wrong. |
12-20-2019, 12:22 PM | #10 |
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What do you call telling witnesses not to testify or honor subpoenas chico ,curious?
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12-19-2019, 11:31 AM | #11 | |
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I'm not sure the Debating With the Enemy forum is successful any longer. Not much intelligence being put forth around here, just a bunch of firing shots. There was a time where I could learn things from reading through these posts but those days are fewer and far between, now.
I continue to be disappointed by our leadership. From all facts gathered from available reporting, and from the behavior of the White House as they sought to cover the tracks following Trump's phone calls with Ukraine, it seems fairly clear that Trump abused his power, using foreign policy to influence foreign governments into taking action to influence a domestic election. Whether Biden is actually guilty of anything is neither here nor there, the President used the State's power to try to influence Ukraine. It's an impeachable offense. What's so disappointing about Congress is McConnell, and other Senators, saying they're not impartial jurors in this process. McConnell said 'I'm not an impartial juror, this is a political process.' Yet he literally took an oath when he took office in the Senate that reads verbatim: Quote:
It's a microcosm of how polarized and partisan this nation has become. Set aside all duty to the country in the name of party. It's incredibly disappointing. That all said, Pelosi should know that these impeachment proceedings are never going to result in the necessary 2/3rds vote in the Senate to actually remove Trump from office, and she should know that Trump's media machine will spin the impeachment proceedings as a 'witch hunt', painting Trump as the victim while he's trying to stand up for the everyman in America. We've got the President breaking laws, we've got the Senate majority leader abandoning his oath of office, and we've got ineptitude at the helm of the other party. It's hard to find a reason to go to the polls to vote in November 2020.
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12-19-2019, 12:38 PM | #12 | |
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12-19-2019, 01:13 PM | #13 |
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12-20-2019, 11:07 AM | #14 |
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Pretty significant when the evangelicals have given up on you
Calling Trump 'Morally Lost,' 'Christianity Today' Editor Calls For Impeachment lol at Trump's response, what a bozo... The editorial seems to have infuriated Trump, who attacked Christianity Today on Twitter Friday morning by calling the magazine – which is generally considered to be aimed at moderate and centrist Christian readers – a "far left magazine" that "knows nothing about reading a perfect transcript of a routine phone call." |
12-20-2019, 12:47 PM | #15 | |
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And yeah, Christianity today isn’t left or far left, that’s typical bullshit from Trump.
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