The Sam Howell Thread

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by jamf

Howell QB1? FU Rivera.
Heinicke had to tell you to start him in a garbage time game now he is your QB1? Dumb ass mother fucker.

New owner is cleaning house. New OC has no shot of staying on.

Aren't you the one that wants to draft a QB every single year until they get it right? What's the point if they are not willing to find out if the guy they drafted is the right guy?

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Aren't you the one that wants to draft a QB every single year until they get it right? What's the point if they are not willing to find out if the guy they drafted is the right guy?

Great point !!

[jamf]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Aren't you the one that wants to draft a QB every single year until they get it right? What's the point if they are not willing to find out if the guy they drafted is the right guy?

Yes!
I want to have the best options available at QB and hopefully someone steps up in camp.

Step one is winning the job. Let the young QB actually earn the start then you see what they can do during the season.

Howell hasn’t earned the starting job. He backed into it via a wasted season and the two guys ahead of him shitting the bed. Every qb in the league should have a similar skill set to Howell. You aren’t seeing anything extraordinary from him. Unfortunately we had to watch noodle arm throw for half the season so Howell loooks like John Elway.

How about draft a guy or two and let the 3 of them battle it out?
I don’t give a fuck about their egos or feelings. The one the plays the best in camp starts.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Aren't you the one that wants to draft a QB every single year until they get it right? What's the point if they are not willing to find out if the guy they drafted is the right guy?

I have always believed that you draft QB's every year or just about every year. It's the most important position on your team and it is a main reason why this organization never goes anywhere.

Even if you have an established stater you still should draft a QB in the mid or later rounds.

[mredskins]

Ok now we are daydreaming that the new OC will eventually be the HC and SH is going be Super Bowl MVP

Good grief

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Ok now we are daydreaming that the new OC will eventually be the HC and SH is going be Super Bowl MVP



Good grief

Nobody is talking about SB MVP, just saying the possibility of the offense being successful enough for the OC to be considered as a HC candidates exists, this notion that it'll be an automatic house cleaning no matter the situation is a stretch IMO.

I'm not even talking about probability, but the possibility existing may make this position more attractive than we think. Both "automatic house cleaning" and "nobody will want this OC job" are overstatements.

[skinsfan69]

As far as Howell goes he is really in a tough spot. He doesn't even know who his OC is going to be. And that guy may be here for only a year. The head coach is probably going to run option plays and get the QB killed like he did Cam Newton. Who on this staff has a history of developing QB's?

Washington is the graveyard for QB's.

[HTTR]

There are too many moving parts — owner, HC, OC, QB, 2023 draft — to map out the single best way forward, other than to say that the ideal would be to start at the top and work your way down. But that’s not going to happen by April.

So RR, for better or worse, has to field a team, hire on OC, and make up a draft board. Parts of that will be undone by subsequent ownership moves. And we will stay in purgatory during that time with 7-9 wins.

So in the meantime why not try to answer one of few questions that we can answer — Is Sam Howell someone who can develop into QB1 or QB2?

SH was a smart pick for those of us who feel you should always draft a QB in a value-appropriate round. But don’t forget the next part of that axiom: “. . . . because he might turn out to be a keeper.” This is the right time to try to answer that question.

It’s not about “crowning” anyone. It’s about the context of where we are as an organization in 2023.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by HTTR

There are too many moving parts — owner, HC, OC, QB, 2023 draft — to map out the single best way forward, other than to say that the ideal would be to start at the top and work your way down. But that’s not going to happen by April.

So RR, for better or worse, has to field a team, hire on OC, and make up a draft board. Parts of that will be undone by subsequent ownership moves. And we will stay in purgatory during that time with 7-9 wins.

So in the meantime why not try to answer one of few questions that we can answer — Is Sam Howell someone who can develop into QB1 or QB2?

SH was a smart pick for those of us who feel you should always draft a QB in a value-appropriate round. But don’t forget the next part of that axiom: “. . . . because he might turn out to be a keeper.” This is the right time to try to answer that question.

It’s not about “crowning” anyone. It’s about the context of where we are as an organization in 2023.


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Good post.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by HTTR

There are too many moving parts — owner, HC, OC, QB, 2023 draft — to map out the single best way forward, other than to say that the ideal would be to start at the top and work your way down. But that’s not going to happen by April.

So RR, for better or worse, has to field a team, hire on OC, and make up a draft board. Parts of that will be undone by subsequent ownership moves. And we will stay in purgatory during that time with 7-9 wins.

So in the meantime why not try to answer one of few questions that we can answer — Is Sam Howell someone who can develop into QB1 or QB2?

SH was a smart pick for those of us who feel you should always draft a QB in a value-appropriate round. But don’t forget the next part of that axiom: “. . . . because he might turn out to be a keeper.” This is the right time to try to answer that question.

It’s not about “crowning” anyone. It’s about the context of where we are as an organization in 2023.


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Solid way to put it.
We gotta accept 2023 is a weird transition year, I don't want any big splash this off-season. We're probably not going anywhere next year, why would you want to spend big on a pretty much meaningless season.
Keep building a solid roster, and let the next guys take over with as many assets as possible.

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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Solid way to put it.
We gotta accept 2023 is a weird transition year, I don't want any big splash this off-season. We're probably not going anywhere next year, why would you want to spend big on a pretty much meaningless season.
Keep building a solid roster, and let the next guys take over with as many assets as possible.

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Well, you need to sign Payne, Curl, Holcomb and others, they better or they are going nowhere. In my opinion the only FA's that need to be signed are these teams FA's. Draft 3 OL, a CB, LB, QB, DL, K and we are set.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Well, you need to sign Payne, Curl, Holcomb and others, they better or they are going nowhere. In my opinion the only FA's that need to be signed are these teams FA's. Draft 3 OL, a CB, LB, QB, DL, K and we are set.

That’s be great if they could do this. I might switch the DL to another CB

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Well, you need to sign Payne, Curl, Holcomb and others, they better or they are going nowhere. In my opinion the only FA's that need to be signed are these teams FA's. Draft 3 OL, a CB, LB, QB, DL, K and we are set.

No for sure, like it's been said by others, Ron has a job and he's going to do it, and like I said I want them to keep them building the roster the right way. Just don't want them to spend huge $ or trade big assets, ie for a big name QB.
I also hope they find at least one OL in FA, not sure you can hope to find all your needs in the draft, don't want to put yourself in a position where you'd be tempted to reach.

[rocnrik]

Yep .. makes sense to me ! Ron is only staying as coach because of sale .. he is lame duck coach and it would be a big mistake to bring in some aging vet with a huge contract with all the uncertainties.. go with Howell for now!

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Yep .. makes sense to me ! Ron is only staying as coach because of sale .. he is lame duck coach and it would be a big mistake to bring in some aging vet with a huge contract with all the uncertainties.. go with Howell for now!

If he is a lame duck I am not sure he cares what the next coaching staff has to deal with in regards to FA contracts.