A question of style: Evan, Roy or Tim?

[InsaneBoost]

I have to go with Royster as my favorite back, at least right now. The guy has decent speed and can plow people over, let alone has GREAT cuts.

Helu is nice as well, very similar, but for some reason I feel he runs out of steam much much faster than Royster does, and he can't take the hits nearly as well (not saying he goes down easy because he doesn't).

Hightower I'm really not so sure he fits in the system. He looked great in preseason last year, but during regular season the production wasn't that great IMO.

Coming into the season I have to think the lineup would be Royster, Helu and Hightower, but I wouldn't leave the 6th round pick, Alfred Morris, from FAU to steal a spot in training camp or later in the season. He reminds me A LOT of Walter Payton and when I interviewed him last night, he compared himself to him a lot.

Either way, I think we're good at the RB position.

[30gut]

Woah, Walter Payton?
I remember Walter Payton.
That self given comparison is gonna rub some of the older fellas the wrong way.
Nothing against the Morris, don't know him from Joe on the street.
And I understand feeling confident, and he might really feel he is similar to Walter Payton.
But, if you have an avenue, please pass this along from an idiot fan on an interent forum:
comparing yourself to Walter Payton is something you think not say

[30gut]

Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

...[Royster] can plow people over, let alone has GREAT cuts.

Helu is nice as well, very similar, but for some reason I feel he runs out of steam much much faster than Royster does, and he can't take the hits nearly as well (not saying he goes down easy because he doesn't).

Hmmmnnn, never saw Royster as a plow people over type at all.

Couple of questions to understand your viewpoint:

When you say runs out of stem you mean over the course of a game or during a long run?

What do mean by 'taking hits'?

[Chico23231]

I actually think Royster and Helu are pretty close style-wise when it comes down too it. Helu is obviously quicker and faster. Royster is better finding cutback lanes, catching the ball and I think his stamina is better. We need both to be successful.

[30gut]

Why/how does Royster (who's never had over 20 carries) have more stamina?
How/why does Royster have better hands?

[InsaneBoost]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Hmmmnnn, never saw Royster as a plow people over type at all.

Couple of questions to understand your viewpoint:

When you say runs out of stem you mean over the course of a game or during a long run?

What do mean by 'taking hits'?

I don't want to give the image off that Royster can run anyone over, but he's not scared of lowering the shoulder, where I feel Helu, not scared, just doesn't do it. Goes down easier I suppose?

Runs out of steam on long runs. I think for the course of a game he's pretty consistent. It's like he can burst through the hole, but as the run goes on, he starts to slow down.

[InsaneBoost]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Woah, Walter Payton?
I remember Walter Payton.
That self given comparison is gonna rub some of the older fellas the wrong way.
Nothing against the Morris, don't know him from Joe on the street.
And I understand feeling confident, and he might really feel he is similar to Walter Payton.
But, if you have an avenue, please pass this along from an idiot fan on an interent forum:
comparing yourself to Walter Payton is something you think not say

Believe me, I know it's a big comparison, but after watching tape on him, that's who he reminds me of, A LOT. Even after talking with him, he's a great guy like Walter, no cockiness, loves to talk and loves to work.

He had me talk to him on Sunday (Memorial Day Weekend keep in mind), because during the week he doesn't like to talk, he likes to stay focused on his work.

Don't get it as "I'm the next Walter Payton," he was just stating if he had to compare himself to an older player, it'd be Payton.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

I don't want to give the image off that Royster can run anyone over, but he's not scared of lowering the shoulder, where I feel Helu, not scared, just doesn't do it. Goes down easier I suppose?

Then we really see them differently.
I don't see Helu as a back that goes down easily at all.
To my eye he's both willing and has demonstrated the ability to run through contact.
I thought this trait would be evident on film.*shrugs*

Runs out of steam on long runs. I think for the course of a game he's pretty consistent. It's like he can burst through the hole, but as the run goes on, he starts to slow down.

Hmmnn, didn't see this either.

But, to each their own, I like all 3 backs, if I had to pick a lead back I would go with Helu, I like Royster as a change of pace
And I think Hightower gets a bad rap based on his YPC more then his ability if you watch him on film the talent is there

Either way we got 3 good ones (provided THT is 100%)
-HTTR

[30gut]

Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

Believe me, I know it's a big comparison....Don't get it as "I'm the next Walter Payton," he was just stating if he had to compare himself to an older player, it'd be Payton.

Hey to each their own, but I'm not quite sure you realize how outlandish that comparison is to an entire generation of football fans...
SMH Walter Payton? Barry Sanders even blushed at being compared to Sweetness maybe I'm just getting old.....

[InsaneBoost]

I understand what you're saying, and maybe I'm just being blind, but I think he has a similar running style to what Payton had.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

I understand what you're saying, and maybe I'm just being blind, but I think he has a similar running style to what Payton had.

Its one thing for you to think it; its quite another:

Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

...[Morris]he compared himself to [Walter Payton]him a lot....

these might play better:
he looks up to or patterns his style after or speaks with reverence about or tries to emulate etc...

[InsaneBoost]

Well I'm sure that's what he meant.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Why/how does Royster (who's never had over 20 carries) have more stamina?
How/why does Royster have better hands?

3-G-Mafia, im not basing all my info on their style their Rookie year campaign. Im looking and remembering what I saw in college. Their style didnt develop in a one year time. Penn State is up the road and saw alot of Royster, Helu was maybe the best player on the field when they played Va Tech senior year. It would make sense that Shanny would get backs with similar styles to fit his zone system.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

Well I'm sure that's what he meant.

That might be what he meant but its not what you said that he said.
And comparing oneself to Walter Payton and admiring/emulating Walter Payton are worlds apart in meaning.

[InsaneBoost]

I'll get you the exact quote if you'd like. Let me pull up the audio a little later tonight.