Secondary a Primary Concern

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

How is a troublemaker that is always in danger of going to jail or getting suspended an upgrade?

While resources are limited, I hope the Redskins can do a better job than Talib in replacing Hall next season.

Because he is going to be a really good boy and he wants nothing more than to help the redskins win a superbowl next year?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Because he is going to be a really good boy and he wants nothing more than to help the redskins win a superbowl next year?

The coaching staff can't even get D. Hall to shut up, how are they going to keep Talib from staying out of trouble?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The coaching staff can't even get D. Hall to shut up, how are they going to keep Talib from staying out of trouble?

I think its a strong possibility if Morris is here and Talib stays out of trouble this year. He's got talent and we need a CB bad.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The coaching staff can't even get D. Hall to shut up, how are they going to keep Talib from staying out of trouble?

I was being funny but also serious. Im agreeing with Chico. If talib stays out of trouble and has a productive year than we will move on him. If he doesnt they wont. As of rite now it isnt our coaching staffs job to keep him in line. He will have to prove he can do that first. Oh and dont underestimate the difficulty of keeping halls mouth shut!

[REDSKINS4ever]

If Cedric Griffin doesn't have a strong game against either the Colts or the Bucs, he will definitely be cut. Tanard Jackson has the ability to be a decent safety. He should be better than what Atogwe or Landry was.

[Monkeydad]

Not a chance Jackson is better than OJ or LaRon. He can't tackle.

[ethat001]

I just hope we get lucky with a couple of these secondary players. Merriweather, Madieu, Jackson, C.Griff, etc.... Just hope one or two stick. It's only preseason game 3, and so I'm reserving judgement.

Otherwise, it will be hard to address all of the secondary concerns in the draft next year when we already need: LB, CB/safety, O-line (RT), etc... With another $18 mill penalty, hard to imagine we could sign a ton of talent all to back loaded contracts.

[The Goat]

What would be even better is if Crawford developed into the starter opposite Wilson. Draft another qualify prospect next year (after a right tackle).

Speaking of right tackles Massie didn't look good tonight. Big and slow.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by The Goat

What would be even better is if Crawford developed into the starter opposite Wilson. Draft another qualify prospect next year (after a right tackle).

Speaking of right tackles Massie didn't look good tonight. Big and slow.

Can u guys just not accept that d hall is our best corner? Lol I mean he gets benched by most of u and who replaces him?? Wilson isn't better, Buchanan wasn't better, God knows Barnes isn't better. Give the guy some props, he's actually pretty good IMO hell at least he can catch

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Can u guys just not accept that d hall is our best corner? Lol I mean he gets benched by most of u and who replaces him?? Wilson isn't better, Buchanan wasn't better, God knows Barnes isn't better. Give the guy some props, he's actually pretty good IMO hell at least he can catch

Hall can be a game-changer, but in both directions. When he whiffs it often results in an opposing TD or big gain. I honestly think for his reward/risk ratio to be positive he has to create at least one turnover every game.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Hall can be a game-changer, but in both directions. When he whiffs it often results in an opposing TD or big gain. I honestly think for his reward/risk ratio to be positive he has to create at least one turnover every game.

Because of our poor offense, the Redskins have typically not being able to take advantage of turnovers. However, you are correct...when Hall whiffs, he whiffs big time. And he also can't tackle, yet somehow he ends up 2nd or 3rd in team tackles (at least way back).

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Because of our poor offense, the Redskins have typically not being able to take advantage of turnovers. However, you are correct...when Hall whiffs, he whiffs big time. And he also can't tackle, yet somehow he ends up 2nd or 3rd in team tackles (at least way back).

D Hall must be given some credit for putting his helmet in opposing ball carriers chests in the last two years. He has gotten alot more physical than he used to be. I would say he went from a below average tackler to an average tackler. He had a fairly good year (or alot better than previous years) last year. I'm not afraid to give him a little credit for getting a bit more physical.

This year, I expect him to be more improved as a tackler than last year. I guess they plan on putting him on the slot receiver some this year, due to Barnes inability to line up on the inside. With Hall being closer to the ball, I could see him snag a few more INT's this year as well. And with him playing under the umbrella, and closer to the line of scrimmage a little more frequently, he should have more tackles as opposed to previous years as well.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

D Hall must be given some credit for putting his helmet in opposing ball carriers chests in the last two years. He has gotten alot more physical than he used to be. I would say he went from a below average tackler to an average tackler. He had a fairly good year (or alot better than previous years) last year. I'm not afraid to give him a little credit for getting a bit more physical..

I still have this image burned into my head.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

D Hall must be given some credit for putting his helmet in opposing ball carriers chests in the last two years. He has gotten alot more physical than he used to be. I would say he went from a below average tackler to an average tackler. He had a fairly good year (or alot better than previous years) last year. I'm not afraid to give him a little credit for getting a bit more physical.

This year, I expect him to be more improved as a tackler than last year. I guess they plan on putting him on the slot receiver some this year, due to Barnes inability to line up on the inside. With Hall being closer to the ball, I could see him snag a few more INT's this year as well. And with him playing under the umbrella, and closer to the line of scrimmage a little more frequently, he should have more tackles as opposed to previous years as well.

Regarding Hall's tackling, here's two words for you: Rob Gronkowski. By the way, Hall also missed an easy tackle last night. He doesn't like to tackle, he doesn't want to tackle, he often makes pathetically weak attempts to tackle, and sometimes he avoids tackling altogether (as in the case of Rob G.).

On this team, which is weak at the CB position, moving Hall inside only exposes another corner who can't cover on the outside. I think the Skins are in need of one more capable NFL CB to shore up the defensive secondary.

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Hall can be a game-changer, but in both directions. When he whiffs it often results in an opposing TD or big gain. I honestly think for his reward/risk ratio to be positive he has to create at least one turnover every game.

Yes, D.Hall is the equivalent of Sexy Rexy.

If he can keep making interceptions / good plays, he's worth it. Once Hall stops getting the interceptions, it becomes painful to watch. I'm hoping this year he can recreate himself in the secondary.