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Old 10-25-2020, 10:06 AM   #1006
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What the what? 2/3 of all terrorist attacks this year on US soil were committed by white supremacists? There goes the liberal media again trying to besmirch the good name of conservatives.
No, its the media downplaying the fact that Iranian sponsored terrorism has dropped dramatically and multiple Arab states are opening relations with Israel that reflects the bias. It is the old 3 card monte of redirection.

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Old 10-27-2020, 01:09 PM   #1007
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Red State - found a good example article where they blast both parties. Red State is strongly right and they "nutpick" the topics they want to write about.
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Kushner’s comments come amid a concerted effort by the Trump administration to increase the president’s support among black voters. In 2016, Trump received only eight percent of the overall black vote, but earned double-digit support from black men. Recent signs indicate that he may increase his support among black men.

This is why the senior adviser’s comments were ill-advised. His remarks seem to indicate that black Americans might not desire success enough to overcome the obstacles they face. By intimating that Trump might actually care more about the success of the black community than black people, Kushner is veering too close to another inaccurate trope that has been peddled by the Republican establishment for decades: The notion that black people are unwilling to work towards their own progress.

For years, many on the right have suggested that all — or most — of the problems black people face are due to their lack of self-determination. They put forth the idea that black Americans wish to remain reliant on the state and vote primarily for “free stuff.” Some still repeat this myth without irony as they point out the fact that under President Trump, black unemployment reached historic lows.

The reality is that black Americans strive for success just as ardently as everyone else, despite the roadblocks placed in front of them by the government — especially local governments that run predominantly black cities. The fact remains that Democratic policies like redlining, Jim Crow, lax accountability for police officers, and business repellent tax codes have all contributed to the problems within black communities. While both parties have participated in governmental actions that disproportionately harmed black Americans, the Democrats clearly deserve the lion’s share of the blame.

Despite the harsh impact of faulty, and in many cases, racist policies, most blacks have achieved a level of success. The majority of black Americans are not living in poverty and are not reliant on government programs like welfare. However, the legacy of the Democrats has created a vast racial wealth disparity, which has made it increasingly difficult for black Americans to close the gap.

President Trump’s Platinum Plan is designed to provide greater economic opportunities for the black community, and if he is re-elected and follows through on his plans, black Americans will take advantage of them. This is why implying that the president might care more about the success of black America than blacks themselves is particularly ill-advised and, even with eight days until Election Day might come off as suspect.

Kushner’s statements reek of elitism, the same type of paternalistic attitude that white progressives adopt towards members of the working class. It is the type of rhetoric that black Democrats already associate with the right, and unfortunately, their views are not unfounded.

Let’s put the shoe on the other foot. If President Obama had made similar remarks about whites in the midwest, people on the right would push back against his elitism. The reaction to his painfully out-of-touch “bitter clingers” comments illustrates this perfectly.

Of course, this isn’t to say that Kushner meant to make such condescending remarks. It is possible that he meant something different. But the fact remains: If the conservative movement wants to earn more black support, its messengers must communicate with them the same way they do with whites.

When was the last time you heard Republicans or members of the Trump administration make the same type of comments about poor whites in Mississippi? Case in point
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https://redstate.com/jeffc/2020/10/2...enough-n269925

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Old 10-27-2020, 03:43 PM   #1008
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What the what? 2/3 of all terrorist attacks this year on US soil were committed by white supremacists? There goes the liberal media again trying to besmirch the good name of conservatives.
And they did it without even mentioning the current administration has white supremacists writing policy for the federal government. I'm looking at you Stephen Miller.
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Old 10-28-2020, 01:52 AM   #1009
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Red State - found a good example article where they blast both parties. Red State is strongly right and they "nutpick" the topics they want to write about.
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Kushner’s comments come amid a concerted effort by the Trump administration to increase the president’s support among black voters. In 2016, Trump received only eight percent of the overall black vote, but earned double-digit support from black men. Recent signs indicate that he may increase his support among black men.

This is why the senior adviser’s comments were ill-advised. His remarks seem to indicate that black Americans might not desire success enough to overcome the obstacles they face. By intimating that Trump might actually care more about the success of the black community than black people, Kushner is veering too close to another inaccurate trope that has been peddled by the Republican establishment for decades: The notion that black people are unwilling to work towards their own progress.

For years, many on the right have suggested that all — or most — of the problems black people face are due to their lack of self-determination. They put forth the idea that black Americans wish to remain reliant on the state and vote primarily for “free stuff.” Some still repeat this myth without irony as they point out the fact that under President Trump, black unemployment reached historic lows.

The reality is that black Americans strive for success just as ardently as everyone else, despite the roadblocks placed in front of them by the government — especially local governments that run predominantly black cities. The fact remains that Democratic policies like redlining, Jim Crow, lax accountability for police officers, and business repellent tax codes have all contributed to the problems within black communities. While both parties have participated in governmental actions that disproportionately harmed black Americans, the Democrats clearly deserve the lion’s share of the blame.

Despite the harsh impact of faulty, and in many cases, racist policies, most blacks have achieved a level of success. The majority of black Americans are not living in poverty and are not reliant on government programs like welfare. However, the legacy of the Democrats has created a vast racial wealth disparity, which has made it increasingly difficult for black Americans to close the gap.

President Trump’s Platinum Plan is designed to provide greater economic opportunities for the black community, and if he is re-elected and follows through on his plans, black Americans will take advantage of them. This is why implying that the president might care more about the success of black America than blacks themselves is particularly ill-advised and, even with eight days until Election Day might come off as suspect.

Kushner’s statements reek of elitism, the same type of paternalistic attitude that white progressives adopt towards members of the working class. It is the type of rhetoric that black Democrats already associate with the right, and unfortunately, their views are not unfounded.

Let’s put the shoe on the other foot. If President Obama had made similar remarks about whites in the midwest, people on the right would push back against his elitism. The reaction to his painfully out-of-touch “bitter clingers” comments illustrates this perfectly.

Of course, this isn’t to say that Kushner meant to make such condescending remarks. It is possible that he meant something different. But the fact remains: If the conservative movement wants to earn more black support, its messengers must communicate with them the same way they do with whites.

When was the last time you heard Republicans or members of the Trump administration make the same type of comments about poor whites in Mississippi? Case in point
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https://redstate.com/jeffc/2020/10/2...enough-n269925

Thats a double barrel to both parties
This was a good post. And a good article. Good share. We all need more stories like this. At minimum, you have to at least think about both sides (the people in power) being biased, full of shit, etc.
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Old 10-28-2020, 10:46 PM   #1010
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Food for thought...

The clown in the White House just brokered three Middle East Peace Accords, something that 71 years of political intervention and endless war failed to produce.

The buffoon in the White House is the first president that has not engaged us in a foreign war since Eisenhower.

The clown in the White House has had the greatest impact on the economy, bringing jobs, and lowering unemployment to the Black and Latino population of ANY other president. Ever.

The buffoon in the White House has exposed the deep, widespread, and long-standing corruption in the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the Republican and Democratic parties.

The buffoon in the White House turned NATO around and had them start paying their dues.

The clown in the White House neutralized the North Koreans, stopped them from developing a further nuclear capability, sending missiles toward Japan, and threatening the West Coast of the US.

The clown in the White House turned our relationship with the Chinese around, brought hundreds of business back to the US, and revived the economy. Hello!!!!!!!

The clown in the White House has accomplished the appointing of three Supreme Court Justices and close to 300 Federal Judges.

This same clown in the White House lowered your taxes, increased the standard deduction on your IRS return from $12,500 for Married Filing Joint to $24,400 and caused your stock market to move to record levels over 100 times, positively impacting the retirements of tens of millions of citizens.
The clown in the White House fast-tracked the development of a COVID Vaccine - it will be available within weeks - we still don't have a vaccine for SARS, Bird Flu, Ebola, or a host of diseases that arose during previous administrations.

The clown in the White House rebuilt our military which the Obama administration had crippled and had fired 214 key generals and admirals in his first year of office.

This clown in the White House uncovered widespread pedophilia in the government and in Hollywood, and is exposing world wide sex trafficking of minors and bringing children home to their families.

The clown in the White House works for free and has lost well over 2 billion dollars of his own money in serving - and done all of this and much more in the face of relentless undermining and opposition from people who are threatened because they know they are going to be exposed as the criminals that they are if he is re-elected.

I got it, you don't like him. Many of you utterly hate and despise him. How special of you. He is serving you and ALL the American people. What are you doing besides calling him names and laughing about him catching the China virus ?????

And please educate me again as to what Biden has accomplished for America in his 47 years in office?
I’ll take a ‘clown’ any day versus a fork tongued, smooth talking hypocritical corrupt liar. Please let it be known, I am not sure I would want to have a beer with him (if he drank, which he doesn't) or even be his friend. I don’t care if I even like him. I want a strong leader who isn’t afraid to kick some ass when needed. I don’t need a fatherly figure - I already have one. I don’t need a liar - that's what Hollywood and CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS and the New York Times are for.

I don’t need someone to help me, but I also don’t want an obstacle or a demented, senile washed-up Swamp Monster.

God bless Donald Trump - the most unappreciated President in history.




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Old 10-29-2020, 05:06 AM   #1011
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The fact that you think trump did any of that is sad and dangerous. I pray and hope not many others have the same out look as you do.
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Old 10-29-2020, 08:29 AM   #1012
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Food for thought...

The clown in the White House just brokered three Middle East Peace Accords, something that 71 years of political intervention and endless war failed to produce.

The buffoon in the White House is the first president that has not engaged us in a foreign war since Eisenhower.

The clown in the White House has had the greatest impact on the economy, bringing jobs, and lowering unemployment to the Black and Latino population of ANY other president. Ever.

The buffoon in the White House has exposed the deep, widespread, and long-standing corruption in the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the Republican and Democratic parties.

The buffoon in the White House turned NATO around and had them start paying their dues.

The clown in the White House neutralized the North Koreans, stopped them from developing a further nuclear capability, sending missiles toward Japan, and threatening the West Coast of the US.

The clown in the White House turned our relationship with the Chinese around, brought hundreds of business back to the US, and revived the economy. Hello!!!!!!!

The clown in the White House has accomplished the appointing of three Supreme Court Justices and close to 300 Federal Judges.

This same clown in the White House lowered your taxes, increased the standard deduction on your IRS return from $12,500 for Married Filing Joint to $24,400 and caused your stock market to move to record levels over 100 times, positively impacting the retirements of tens of millions of citizens.
The clown in the White House fast-tracked the development of a COVID Vaccine - it will be available within weeks - we still don't have a vaccine for SARS, Bird Flu, Ebola, or a host of diseases that arose during previous administrations.

The clown in the White House rebuilt our military which the Obama administration had crippled and had fired 214 key generals and admirals in his first year of office.

This clown in the White House uncovered widespread pedophilia in the government and in Hollywood, and is exposing world wide sex trafficking of minors and bringing children home to their families.

The clown in the White House works for free and has lost well over 2 billion dollars of his own money in serving - and done all of this and much more in the face of relentless undermining and opposition from people who are threatened because they know they are going to be exposed as the criminals that they are if he is re-elected.

I got it, you don't like him. Many of you utterly hate and despise him. How special of you. He is serving you and ALL the American people. What are you doing besides calling him names and laughing about him catching the China virus ?????

And please educate me again as to what Biden has accomplished for America in his 47 years in office?
I’ll take a ‘clown’ any day versus a fork tongued, smooth talking hypocritical corrupt liar. Please let it be known, I am not sure I would want to have a beer with him (if he drank, which he doesn't) or even be his friend. I don’t care if I even like him. I want a strong leader who isn’t afraid to kick some ass when needed. I don’t need a fatherly figure - I already have one. I don’t need a liar - that's what Hollywood and CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS and the New York Times are for.

I don’t need someone to help me, but I also don’t want an obstacle or a demented, senile washed-up Swamp Monster.

God bless Donald Trump - the most unappreciated President in history.




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Old 10-29-2020, 09:33 AM   #1013
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Cred, the amount of time I would have to spend debunking that nonsense is way more time than it took you to copy and paste that from whatever Fox News comment section you got that from.

That shit is why the internet is dangerous. If you want to have that argument in good faith, source every claim you make and let it stand on its own.
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Old 10-29-2020, 09:40 AM   #1014
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Sounds like a copy and paste email from someone's crazy uncle
And yet, do we hear about the Mideast successes (no)
lack of military aggression on our part (no - in fact according to mainstream media I doubt a month went by where we weren't facing certain apocalyptic war from one country or another)
Are other NATO members paying more dues (and amazingly haven't left the umbrella of it hmmm) (yes)
the list is written the way it is because the anti-Trump forces won't acknowledge it regardless of how it is written but it highlights the ways Trump has worked for the country even as dems stonewalled every opportunity they could and mainstream media colluded and conspired to keep positive viewpoints ridiculed and silenced.

Trump is an idiot, I think we all agree on the public persona of him, but he had a lot of policy successes that had eluded the dems and reps for a long time (mostly because they really didn't want to implement success just keep the status quo of the swamp)
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Old 10-29-2020, 09:50 AM   #1015
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And yet, do we hear about the Mideast successes (no)
lack of military aggression on our part (no - in fact according to mainstream media I doubt a month went by where we weren't facing certain apocalyptic war from one country or another)
Are other NATO members paying more dues (and amazingly haven't left the umbrella of it hmmm) (yes)
the list is written the way it is because the anti-Trump forces won't acknowledge it regardless of how it is written but it highlights the ways Trump has worked for the country even as dems stonewalled every opportunity they could and mainstream media colluded and conspired to keep positive viewpoints ridiculed and silenced.

Trump is an idiot, I think we all agree on the public persona of him, but he had a lot of policy successes that had eluded the dems and reps for a long time (mostly because they really didn't want to implement success just keep the status quo of the swamp)
No he hasn't , he is a clown a fool and a racist moron, facts that can not be denied.
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Old 10-29-2020, 10:00 AM   #1016
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No he hasn't , he is a clown a fool and a racist moron, facts that can not be denied.
You literally add zero value to rational discussions.
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Old 10-29-2020, 10:13 AM   #1017
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And yet, do we hear about the Mideast successes (no)
lack of military aggression on our part (no - in fact according to mainstream media I doubt a month went by where we weren't facing certain apocalyptic war from one country or another)
Are other NATO members paying more dues (and amazingly haven't left the umbrella of it hmmm) (yes)
the list is written the way it is because the anti-Trump forces won't acknowledge it regardless of how it is written but it highlights the ways Trump has worked for the country even as dems stonewalled every opportunity they could and mainstream media colluded and conspired to keep positive viewpoints ridiculed and silenced.

Trump is an idiot, I think we all agree on the public persona of him, but he had a lot of policy successes that had eluded the dems and reps for a long time (mostly because they really didn't want to implement success just keep the status quo of the swamp)
You said it yourself, he's an idiot and let's face it, a big time asshole and narcissist and probably has some deep seeded mental instabilities. His behavior and complete disrespect of anyone that does not agree with him distracts from any "successes" he may have. Maybe if he acted Presidential (or simply like an adult) vs constantly attacking everyone things would be different. Sorry but he's dug his own hole on how he's portrayed.
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You said it yourself, he's an idiot and let's face it, a big time asshole and narcissist and probably has some deep seeded mental instabilities. His behavior and complete disrespect of anyone that does not agree with him distracts from any "successes" he may have. Maybe if he acted Presidential (or simply like an adult) vs constantly attacking everyone things would be different. Sorry but he's dug his own hole on how he's portrayed.
I get the portrayal, and I am not arguing that - I so wish he had the likability factor of JFK, Reagan or Clinton(Bill).

I get that policy wise a liberal democrat will not see his political successes as positives

But when abstracted from personality, he has done policy wise much of what he ran on.
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And yet, do we hear about the Mideast successes (no)
lack of military aggression on our part (no - in fact according to mainstream media I doubt a month went by where we weren't facing certain apocalyptic war from one country or another)
Are other NATO members paying more dues (and amazingly haven't left the umbrella of it hmmm) (yes)
the list is written the way it is because the anti-Trump forces won't acknowledge it regardless of how it is written but it highlights the ways Trump has worked for the country even as dems stonewalled every opportunity they could and mainstream media colluded and conspired to keep positive viewpoints ridiculed and silenced.

Trump is an idiot, I think we all agree on the public persona of him, but he had a lot of policy successes that had eluded the dems and reps for a long time (mostly because they really didn't want to implement success just keep the status quo of the swamp)
Lack of military aggression - weve done record breaking bombings in Yemen and Somalia. The media doesnt cover it like it did w Syria. Russia and Syria escalated their attacks and bombings on the retaking of Aleppo which was completed in April 2017. Aleppo was the last domino to fall for Assad to have to "won". Ceasefires were signed once Aleppo was re-taken.

We also assassinated Irans revolutionary guard leader claiming he was planning an imminent attack to justify. While it was very russian-esque of us, Im actually fine with that bc Trump allowed Iran to do a symbolic attack and didnt escalate from there. But assassinating a General of a foreign country's military ... I think qualifies as major military aggression.

NATO - what if I told you Trump was just ramping up verbal criticism of NATO as a pretense to pull the US out of NATO? And that he had to be strongly talked out of it? And that people fear he may withdraw if he gets a second term?

https://www.google.com/search?ei=wc-...4dUDCAw&uact=5

or perhaps we should believe that Trump is just truly worried about other Nato members meeting their commitment to fund their militarys properly .. and not just attacking them to set up a withdraw. I strongly believe he wants to withdraw from NATO and just keep repeating his attack on them like "lock her up" and all the other bumper sticker slogans he uses so its easily disgestible for americans that dont want to think about anything the requires more than one sentence of information.

trump was not saying that stuff to strengthen NATO or be a good cheerleader.
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I get the portrayal, and I am not arguing that - I so wish he had the likability factor of JFK, Reagan or Clinton(Bill).

I get that policy wise a liberal democrat will not see his political successes as positives

But when abstracted from personality, he has done policy wise much of what he ran on.
The likability/personality is a huge issue. None of us would work for an jerk boss even if we would get rich. I don't think Biden is much less of a clown regardless.
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