Come up with a new name for the Redskins

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Gyv5dXeOs

My mind went there as well…immediately.

I really don’t think this is a big deal

But I will punch people in the face when I hear comments like “long overdue” or “as it should have always been”

I won’t stand for that from supposed redskins fans…if you were ever offended by it then how did you become a fan in the first place? Gtfo, we don’t want you or need you. Go root for the Cowboys you sensitive bitch

[Meks]

Originally Posted by chico23231

my mind went there as well…immediately.

I really don’t think this is a big deal

but i will punch people in the face when i hear comments like “long overdue” or “as it should have always been”

i won’t stand for that from supposed redskins fans…if you were ever offended by it then how did you become a fan in the first place? Gtfo, we don’t want you or need you. Go root for the cowboys you sensitive bitch

yesssssssssss

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

My mind went there as well…immediately.

I really don’t think this is a big deal

But I will punch people in the face when I hear comments like “long overdue” or “as it should have always been”

I won’t stand for that from supposed redskins fans…if you were ever offended by it then how did you become a fan in the first place? Gtfo, we don’t want you or need you. Go root for the Cowboys you sensitive bitch

Some of our local or once local journalists are the worst (I am talking to you Wilbon!. Milloy!).

The latter wrote a column and started it by saying he had been to dozens of Redskins games, often as a guest in the owner's box. He cheered and whooped it up with the best of them. But now he realized how incredibly cruel the name is!

Seems to me if it was ever that egregious, he would not have been a fan at in the first place.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by JackLord

Some of our local or once local journalists are the worst (I am talking to you Wilbon!. Milloy!).

The latter wrote a column and started it by saying he had been to dozens of Redskins games, often as a guest in the owner's box. He cheered and whooped it up with the best of them. But now he realized how incredibly cruel the name is!

Seems to me if it was ever that egregious, he would not have been a fan at in the first place.

The Redskins were Native America's team (They were by far the most popular team in that community according to the WPs polling). And fools like these took it away from them. They say they listened to the NA community - nothing could be farther from the truth (91% ignored).

[skinsfaninok]

Honestly can you blame the team?

[skinsfaninok]

I'm as big of a fan as anyone but I'm not dressing up like an indian chief and going to a game...

[mredskins]

i like Redtails.

redwolves not so much

For the record a Red Wolf is kind of a pussy wolf; its between a gray wolf and a coyote.

I like Washington Senators; it be cool to bring that back to DC.

[skinsfaninok]

I haven't seen one that just sticks out... I hope its something cool and unique but Redwolves is just corny as hell

[Chico23231]

Red wolves…

Gotta strong feeling this will be the name.

I can rock with that

[VTSkins1961]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Red wolves…

Gotta strong feeling this will be the name.

I can rock with that

Me too. Or they could go with the Washington Offenders lol. just kidding

[SunnySide]

This again ...

Would you call a NA a "redskin" to his or her face?

No? You wouldnt?

okay then.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

This again ...

Would you call a NA a "redskin" to his or her face?

No? You wouldnt?

okay then.

So what do you say to the Natives who are fans of the team because of the name and the logo and they say yes this is us. We are red skinned people. That’s how we were created. And yes I have had this happen. Every Native American I’ve met is a fan of the team because of the old name and logo.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

This again ...

Would you call a NA a "redskin" to his or her face?

No? You wouldnt?

okay then.

Would you tell 91% Native Americans that their opinions don't matter? Wait I guess you and along with your woke compadres actually did.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Would you tell 91% Native Americans that their opinions don't matter? Wait I guess you and along with your woke compadres actually did.

To get this number, the Post’s polling team questioned 504 self-identified Native Americans from all 50 states. Given that I have 50 first cousins who are enrolled in the Navajo and Yankton Dakota Sioux Nations, none of whom likes the team name, I found the results to be curious. When I looked more closely at the methodology of the poll, I was appalled.

First and foremost, the Post states clearly that they did not verify the actual Native American identity or tribal enrollment of its respondents. Unlike most “minorities,” non-Native Americans have often declared themselves Native American with little or no factual evidence or cultural connection whatsoever. Furthermore, 56 percent of those asked said they were not part of any tribal nation or could not name what tribe their ancestors claimed. Imagine asking 500 white Americans for an opinion about Europe and not caring that more than half had no connection to their ancestors’ place of origin.

https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...redskins-poll/

In 2016, the Washington Post published a poll about whether Native Americans found the Washington Redskins’ name offensive. Ninety percent of respondents said they were not offended by the team’s name. The poll has since been used by Dan Snyder and other team owners as evidence that their Native American mascots are inoffensive.

But a new study from academics at the University of Michigan and UC Berkeley contradicts that data. In a scientific survey of more than 1,000 Native Americans, roughly half of the participants said they were offended by the Redskins’ name. Moreover, 65 percent said they were offended by sports fans performing a “tomahawk chop,” and 73 percent said they were offended by fans imitating Native American dances.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/0...redskins-name/



When you look into the Wash Po survey .. theres holes and its paper thin.

I posted a bunch of citations like 40 pages back on the problems of people "self identifying" as NA for various reasons.

When half the 504 people the Wash Po surveyed couldnt even lie or think of a single tribe to claim ancestry to ....

its like everyone claiming some irish lineage on St Patricks Day.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

To get this number, the Post’s polling team questioned 504 self-identified Native Americans from all 50 states. Given that I have 50 first cousins who are enrolled in the Navajo and Yankton Dakota Sioux Nations, none of whom likes the team name, I found the results to be curious. When I looked more closely at the methodology of the poll, I was appalled.

First and foremost, the Post states clearly that they did not verify the actual Native American identity or tribal enrollment of its respondents. Unlike most “minorities,” non-Native Americans have often declared themselves Native American with little or no factual evidence or cultural connection whatsoever. Furthermore, 56 percent of those asked said they were not part of any tribal nation or could not name what tribe their ancestors claimed. Imagine asking 500 white Americans for an opinion about Europe and not caring that more than half had no connection to their ancestors’ place of origin.

https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...redskins-poll/

In 2016, the Washington Post published a poll about whether Native Americans found the Washington Redskins’ name offensive. Ninety percent of respondents said they were not offended by the team’s name. The poll has since been used by Dan Snyder and other team owners as evidence that their Native American mascots are inoffensive.

But a new study from academics at the University of Michigan and UC Berkeley contradicts that data. In a scientific survey of more than 1,000 Native Americans, roughly half of the participants said they were offended by the Redskins’ name. Moreover, 65 percent said they were offended by sports fans performing a “tomahawk chop,” and 73 percent said they were offended by fans imitating Native American dances.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/0...redskins-name/



When you look into the Wash Po survey .. theres holes and its paper thin.

I posted a bunch of citations like 40 pages back on the problems of people "self identifying" as NA for various reasons.

When half the 504 people the Wash Po surveyed couldnt even lie or think of a single tribe to claim ancestry to ....

its like everyone claiming some irish lineage on St Patricks Day.

You’re trying to force your view of what you think a Native American is on people. Many tribes consider you a Native if you have any Native blood in your ancestry. You think a person is Native only if they are 100% but that is not the case.