The Sam Howell Thread

jamf · 12-18-2023, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Until Thanksgiving Sam had faced a relative easy schedule in terms of defenses. Since the Cowboys game it has gotten harder. More film on him and facing better defenses was a big test. A big knock I keep hearing from the other teams every week is he has difficulty reading defenses in particular blitzes before the snap and gets confused by zone coverages. I am not saying either way what that means could be a young QB that needs to develop, could mean he is at his ceiling and needs a more hands on OC to be successful, could mean this is who is is.

This was also in some scouting profiles along with having trouble seeing downfield. Dude took a lot of sacks at UNC as well.
He has 1st round ability with a 7th round brain.

I don’t get why we want to develop a guy whose ceiling is Rex Grossman.
You develop a guy like Josh Allen with a high ceiling that can take over games.

If I’m Sam Howell, first thing I do is start an only fans for you jock sniffers then use that money to pay Drew Brees to coach him up on how to read defenses and find passing lanes while in the pocket. Brees was a master at that and that’s been Sams downfall.

skinsfan69 · 12-18-2023, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

This was also in some scouting profiles along with having trouble seeing downfield. Dude took a lot of sacks at UNC as well.
He has 1st round ability with a 7th round brain.

I don’t get why we want to develop a guy whose ceiling is Rex Grossman.
You develop a guy like Josh Allen with a high ceiling that can take over games.

If I’m Sam Howell, first thing I do is start an only fans for you jock sniffers then use that money to pay Drew Brees to coach him up on how to read defenses and find passing lanes while in the pocket. Brees was a master at that and that’s been Sams downfall.

You could have said all those same things about Drew Brees. He got off to a rough start and was benched. You could have said his ceiling wasn't very high either.

GridIron26 · 12-18-2023, 08:32 AM

Difficult to measure Howell when almost everything is terrible. Look at Tua and Lawrence, both didn't look good in their first year with bad head coach and offense coordinator. Both looked much better with new offense system.

I didn't watch the game enough to judge Howell's performance so I cannot say much about yesterday, nonetheless, I'm still in the Howell bandwagon. But I wouldn't be upset if the new GM/coach draft a new QB.

MTK · 12-18-2023, 08:32 AM

I'm not giving up on Sam, but they have to seriously consider a QB in the draft with a top 5 pick, they just have to.

skinsfaninok · 12-18-2023, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I'm not giving up on Sam, but they have to seriously consider a QB in the draft with a top 5 pick, they just have to.

As of today

Bears (panthers)
Pats
Cards
Comms
Bears

That’s the top 5.

If we beat the jets next week then we will drop to 6 or 7.

The Pats will 100% take a QB unless they can get Kirk cousins or something.

Bears are a ?

Cards won’t take a QB.

So we will have Maye or Williams at 4 for sure and that’s not to say we don’t trade up to number 2 with NE.

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EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-18-2023, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

As of today

Bears (panthers)
Pats
Cards
Comms
Bears

That’s the top 5.

If we beat the jets next week then we will drop to 6 or 7.

The Pats will 100% take a QB unless they can get Kirk cousins or something.

Bears are a ?

Cards won’t take a QB.

So we will have Maye or Williams at 4 for sure and that’s not to say we don’t trade up to number 2 with NE.

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If the bears dont take Williams someone will trade up for him

Ruhskins · 12-18-2023, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If the bears dont take Williams someone will trade up for him

We might.

EdmundDorf · 12-18-2023, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

We might.

I hope not, okay if they want to move up for one of the QBs but otherwise stay put or trade down. Lot of people going to watch closely what the new FO do.

skinsfan69 · 12-18-2023, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

As of today

Bears (panthers)
Pats
Cards
Comms
Bears

That’s the top 5.

If we beat the jets next week then we will drop to 6 or 7.

The Pats will 100% take a QB unless they can get Kirk cousins or something.

Bears are a ?

Cards won’t take a QB.

So we will have Maye or Williams at 4 for sure and that’s not to say we don’t trade up to number 2 with NE.

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maybe we take back Cousins..

skinsfaninok · 12-18-2023, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

maybe we take back Cousins..

If he was 30 I would say yes

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SkinsGuru · 12-18-2023, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I'm not giving up on Sam, but they have to seriously consider a QB in the draft with a top 5 pick, they just have to.

how about a draft similar to this:

4. Olumuyiwa Fashanu - OT Penn State
38. Bo Nix - QB Oregon
41. Graham Barton - OG Duke
68. Sedrick Van Pran - OC Georgia
96. Tommy Eichenberg - LB Ohio State
100. Darius Robinson - EDGE Missouri
125. Brevyn Spann-Ford - TE Minnesota
132. Junior Colson - LB Michigan
142. Jaylin Noel - WR Iowa State
191. Jo'Quavious Marks - RB Mississippi State

Still got the best OT, best Center and second best guard (imo) in the draft . . . plus added Bo Nix to compete with Howell.

skinsfan69 · 12-18-2023, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

how about a draft similar to this:

4. Olumuyiwa Fashanu - OT Penn State
38. Bo Nix - QB Oregon
41. Graham Barton - OG Duke
68. Sedrick Van Pran - OC Georgia
96. Tommy Eichenberg - LB Ohio State
100. Darius Robinson - EDGE Missouri
125. Brevyn Spann-Ford - TE Minnesota
132. Junior Colson - LB Michigan
142. Jaylin Noel - WR Iowa State
191. Jo'Quavious Marks - RB Mississippi State

Still got the best OT, best Center and second best guard (imo) in the draft . . . plus added Bo Nix to compete with Howell.

Bo Nix IMO is not worthy of a 2nd round pick. He is a 5th or 6th round project.

SkinsGuru · 12-18-2023, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bo Nix IMO is not worthy of a 2nd round pick. He is a 5th or 6th round project.

I disagree . . . i think he is QB #5 in this draft, ahead of Penix, behind Williams, Maye, Daniels and McCarthy.

skinsfan69 · 12-18-2023, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

I disagree . . . i think he is QB #5 in this draft, ahead of Penix, behind Williams, Maye, Daniels and McCarthy.

I just don't see how he is better than Penix.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-18-2023, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

I disagree . . . i think he is QB #5 in this draft, ahead of Penix, behind Williams, Maye, Daniels and McCarthy.

I dont see how he is better than Penix

12-18-2023, 08:32 AM	#3
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Englewood, CO Age: 35 Posts: 3,271	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Difficult to measure Howell when almost everything is terrible. Look at Tua and Lawrence, both didn't look good in their first year with bad head coach and offense coordinator. Both looked much better with new offense system. I didn't watch the game enough to judge Howell's performance so I cannot say much about yesterday, nonetheless, I'm still in the Howell bandwagon. But I wouldn't be upset if the new GM/coach draft a new QB.

12-18-2023, 08:32 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,433	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I'm not giving up on Sam, but they have to seriously consider a QB in the draft with a top 5 pick, they just have to. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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