Time to clean house 1.0.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is the reality of the situation.... and this is why I feel Manusky will be back.

I agree. I don't think Gruden wants him back, I don't think Allen wants him back, and I think Snyder has no idea and just wants to get better.

But they'll have to take him back, because there will be no better option.

I would hire Gregg or Todd in a NY minute, but they'll choose someplace else, almost certainly.

[Schneed10]

At this point you have to see the logic in a Trust the Process type nosedive to hell in order to come out the other side.

Trade Kerrigan, trade Trent, trade anybody over the age of 27 who has some value. Stockpile picks. Start McCoy in 2019, take all the Ls, and come out guns blazing in the 2020 draft with a new coach and a new front office.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Well, we'll atleast be getting a new Special Teams Coordinator. Evidently we fired Ben Kotwica on the DL because Atlanta's already announced they hired him LOL.

[Schneed10]

Makes you wonder what other moves we've made on the DL.

[NC_Skins]

Is it bad that I really don't care at this point? It means nothing if Bruce Allen is still here in any capacity. Just moving parts around in a busted ass engine going nowhere. In fact, we have retained a lame duck coach who'll be coaching in a lame duck season next year. Not much to look forward to.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

At this point you have to see the logic in a Trust the Process type nosedive to hell in order to come out the other side.

Trade Kerrigan, trade Trent, trade anybody over the age of 27 who has some value. Stockpile picks. Start McCoy in 2019, take all the Ls, and come out guns blazing in the 2020 draft with a new coach and a new front office.

Pretty much what I would do. 2019 is a lame duck year. We're fucked at the QB position right from the start. I'd do exactly what Schneed proposes here.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

perhaps an offseason or two of all the top coaching candidates telling us "thanks but no thanks" is exactly what Snyder needs to see to realize that his shit does indeed stink - very badly.

But what good would it do? Snyder isn't going away, so i doubt he even cares that nobody wants to work with him. If he did care, he would have made changes by now.

[5superbowls3wins]

Rumor being floated that Ben K wanted out and left for Atlanta. Wasn’t fired

Also hearing Bill Callahan and Tomsula are trying to get out as well.


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

But what good would it do? Snyder isn't going away, so i doubt he even cares that nobody wants to work with him. If he did care, he would have made changes by now.

He does care. He's made big changes before. He used to fire coaches left and right. He was too trigger happy. Had he been more patient with the likes of Turner and Marty, we could have built something. Finally, he hired Bruce, who we thought was a "real GM" and were all ecstatic over... but now Snyder's gotten too patient. He's gone from one extreme to the other.

At this point, our own coaches want out. The reports are that the skins did not fire Kotwica. I'm wondering if he made it known he wanted out and so Gruden let him. Reports are that Tomsula and Callahan are unhappy as well.

I don't think we've hit rock bottom yet.

At some point, Snyder will clean house, just like he did post-Zorn/Cerrato. We were all hoping it would be this year, but its looking like we may have to wait for 2020.

[5superbowls3wins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

He does care. He's made big changes before. He used to fire coaches left and right. He was too trigger happy. Had he been more patient with the likes of Turner and Marty, we could have built something. Finally, he hired Bruce, who we thought was a "real GM" and were all ecstatic over... but now Snyder's gotten too patient. He's gone from one extreme to the other.



At this point, our own coaches want out. The reports are that the skins did not fire Kotwica. I'm wondering if he made it known he wanted out and so Gruden let him. Reports are that Tomsula and Callahan are unhappy as well.



I don't think we've hit rock bottom yet.



At some point, Snyder will clean house, just like he did post-Zorn/Cerrato. We were all hoping it would be this year, but its looking like we may have to wait for 2020.

Or Gruden surprises us and they win 13 next year and make a deep playoff run


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[5superbowls3wins]

Does anyone think Snyder, Allen, the FO and coaching staff know about the #firebruceallen thing and read the papers, and see the massive backlash on social media?

They HAVE to know.


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[mooby]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Rumor being floated that Ben K wanted out and left for Atlanta. Wasn’t fired

Also hearing Bill Callahan and Tomsula are trying to get out as well.


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Bruh. Sources please.

[mooby]

Also, I blame Ike Hilliard for Doctson's lack of development. Doctson has the athletic ability to be successful, but for whatever reason (mindset, w/e) its not coming together. I put that on the coach.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 5superbowls3wins

Does anyone think Snyder, Allen, the FO and coaching staff know about the #firebruceallen thing and read the papers, and see the massive backlash on social media?

They HAVE to know.


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It’s been reported that Snyder and Allen know, but they don’t recognize the significance of it. They don’t think that they’re the problem. They think it’s just fan frustration with a losing record due to all the injuries. They are so narcissistic they can’t imagine that they are the problem.


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by mooby

Bruh. Sources please.

He’s probably referring to the Chris Russell tweet:

The #Redskins just lost the coordinator of their best unit all year. Jim Tomsula & Bill Callahan are exhausted from the circus as well.

Regarding the kotwica, it’s been widely reported that the skins did not fire him but gave him permission to interview with Atlanta