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Naega jeil jal naga
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Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
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Virginia, you're closer to that area then me obviously so maybe you know better but everything I've read and heard from family and friends say it's going to be a Romney win. Florida for better or worse has a large senior population that believes Obamacare is going to raid Medicare and full implementation will cause quality doctors to retire. Obviously Obamacare can't simply be overturned but with Obama reelected theres not even a chance of budget reconciliation. Keep in mind I have great respect for the AHCA. It's the reason I'm insured today and the reason why I didn't have to wait to get covered when I got hired for my current job. And the most important thing is even if overturned it will force any bill passed in the future to have some sort of protection for people like me with preexisting conditions. With that said the bill is overkill and needs to be reigned in but I don't agree that it's the end of the world like the GOP will have you believe. Back to poll skewing though. The reason I'm intrigued is apparently back in 2010 the models used mirrored the turnout of the 2008 election with a democratic advantage in states like Ohio around +8. During the midterms the turnout favored Republicans +1 despite polls sampling more Democrats. Thats part of the reason I'm hedging my bets between Obama barely winning (in line with a decent amount of polls inside the margin of error) and a Romney landslide (that in retrospect would show polls oversampling Dems). In the end it will be interesting to see if the concept of poll skewing is legit or just a GOP conspiracy theory.
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
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Romney does not in any way, shape, or form need PA to win. If (when) VA, NC, FL fall into the GOP column, the only remaining hope Obama has is OH...and even if by a miracle Obama steals Ohio, then if CO/WI/NH/NV or some combination of those fall GOP Romney can still win. It appears all eyes will be around the Great Lakes late on Nov. 6th. Watch Rasmussen's polls, he's historically been one of, if not the most, accurate over the last 8 years.
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
first, you are actually comparing Obamas response to sandy, and W's response to Katrina? you really have your had in your ass if you think thats even close.
Obama and Christie: A Sandy love story | NJ.com Capital Tonight « NY's only statewide political program
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"Obama is doing what he knows how to do best. Hand out money. Other then that what has he done? What we will not see is the people waiting for their checks from FEMA 4 to 6 MONTHS from now if they are luck to get them then. FEMA is a nightmare." Last edited by firstdown; 11-01-2012 at 10:02 AM. |
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Gamebreaker
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
Isn't there a bet on the line with Sammy and Saden?? (or was it somebody else) Going to be interesting if any of them pay up.
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
You are correct, and I know saden is an upstanding guy and will pay promptly upon the Obama concession & Romney victory.
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
What is the bet?!
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
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Living Legend
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
I actually have to correct myself. The National Flood Insurance Program is now under HomeLand Security not FEMA.
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I say Obama wins and its probably not all that close.
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Location: washington, D.C.
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
Also, just wanted to say SlinginSammy and Firstdown are good stand up guys. Disagree though we may, they're solid family dudes and I believe they want what's best for the country.
GMScud on the other hand, shady mofo ![]() |
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Location: Virginia Beach
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)
Thx 12th, right back at you. and agree on GMScud, lol.
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