Arrington: 'I could have handled things a bit better'

[EternalEnigma21]

holy crap... you guys are still carrying this crap out... BOTH sides of the argument are wrong, and its done. Its settled. He's not talking crap in the media, and he's back on the field where he belongs. I think this would be fitting here:




I know this has been around for a while, but when I saw it in the super happy fun thread, I spewed milk out of my nose.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

No i havent questioned anyones loyalites others have but people are saying us 56 supporters are not true fans well lets turn that around...childish ..HELL YES it is thats why it should have been dropped ..but u wanna keep beating the drum and wont let it drop i happen to belive in what 56 is posting so i thought i would join in.... its all dumb we should have let this go along time ago but people wanna keep up with the i told u so's and all that well ...we have opinions too....

dude, read my post more carefully, I was responding to funandgunner, not you :P he was the one that brought crap out...

[funandgunner]

Originally Posted by That Guy

there's a difference between debating and attacking... and so far I think you're the only one that's thrown insults and questioned people's loyalty, so... pot, kettle, etc.

Let's get to the true heart of the matter. The closest thing I can compare the whole fan loyalty to Arrington (or to any other player for that matter) versus the coaches is: a father of a pop warner player. A father is a fan and supporter of his son's team to a certain point. That same father of course is looking at his son's best interest first and foremost, so if his son gets his playing time cut then the father is going to be questioning why and more than likely will think it is unfair. So that father is a fan of the son's team to a certain extent, as long as it doesn't go against what is best for his son. The father will wear the team's colors, go to games, and root for the team and other players - but only because his son is on that team.

This situation reminds me of that father loyalty. Arrington is a grown ass man, he doesn't need anyone talking or sticking up for him. Let him play and earn his playing time, if the coaches play him that's their perrogative because the coaches are looking at the best interest of the team first and foremost - not just arrington's. If you don't think the coaches are looking at the best interest of the team, then that would be another argument... because if that were the case, then I would ask you how they weren't looking at the team first other than this arrington situation.

I don't know about you, but I kinda enjoy this type of argument because unlike some of you - what you see as a argument(verbal fight), I see as getting to the heart of the matter and getting to the truth. And unlike some others on this site, I will say what I really want because it is what I really feel. My intention in posting any of this was not to insult or upset anyone (myself included) because I know that everyone here is a redskins fan. But while I say that, I question how much of a redskins fan you all are - the only thing I am asking: are you an arrington fan first (like the father above) or are a redskins fan first ?

This argument will continue because I am not getting anything that really is of any substance and the only responses to the questions I am asking are : don't question fan's loyalty and I am insulting other fans. Sorry if you feel like I am enraging or insulting you by questioning your team loyalty - but if you are a fan of the team (first and foremost above being an Arrington fan), then tell me how you are (but first look at what the father does above for this son's team... wear the team's colors, go to the games, root for the team).

[funandgunner]

Originally Posted by That Guy

there's a difference between debating and attacking... and so far I think you're the only one that's thrown insults and questioned people's loyalty, so... pot, kettle, etc.

... and trust me, if you see that I'm the only one that has been attacking others or throwing insults around - you must have selective vision. Almost everyone that has posted on here, has attacked another post in one way or another.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by That Guy

dude, read my post more carefully, I was responding to funandgunner, not you :P he was the one that brought crap out...

ok that guy sorry look we have a big game lets be happy and enjoy... peace

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

holy crap... you guys are still carrying this crap out... BOTH sides of the argument are wrong, and its done. Its settled. He's not talking crap in the media, and he's back on the field where he belongs. I think this would be fitting here:




I know this has been around for a while, but when I saw it in the super happy fun thread, I spewed milk out of my nose.

I agree i am leaving for the game in 1 hr i'm very excited...

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by funandgunner

Let's get to the true heart of the matter. The closest thing I can compare the whole fan loyalty to Arrington (or to any other player for that matter) versus the coaches is: a father of a pop warner player. A father is a fan and supporter of his son's team to a certain point. That same father of course is looking at his son's best interest first and foremost, so if his son gets his playing time cut then the father is going to be questioning why and more than likely will think it is unfair. So that father is a fan of the son's team to a certain extent, as long as it doesn't go against what is best for his son. The father will wear the team's colors, go to games, and root for the team and other players - but only because his son is on that team.

This situation reminds me of that father loyalty. Arrington is a grown ass man, he doesn't need anyone talking or sticking up for him. Let him play and earn his playing time, if the coaches play him that's their perrogative because the coaches are looking at the best interest of the team first and foremost - not just arrington's. If you don't think the coaches are looking at the best interest of the team, then that would be another argument... because if that were the case, then I would ask you how they weren't looking at the team first other than this arrington situation.

I don't know about you, but I kinda enjoy this type of argument because unlike some of you - what you see as a argument(verbal fight), I see as getting to the heart of the matter and getting to the truth. And unlike some others on this site, I will say what I really want because it is what I really feel. My intention in posting any of this was not to insult or upset anyone (myself included) because I know that everyone here is a redskins fan. But while I say that, I question how much of a redskins fan you all are - the only thing I am asking: are you an arrington fan first (like the father above) or are a redskins fan first ?

This argument will continue because I am not getting anything that really is of any substance and the only responses to the questions I am asking are : don't question fan's loyalty and I am insulting other fans. Sorry if you feel like I am enraging or insulting you by questioning your team loyalty - but if you are a fan of the team (first and foremost above being an Arrington fan), then tell me how you are (but first look at what the father does above for this son's team... wear the team's colors, go to the games, root for the team).

you'll be arguing with yourself then cause it looks like this substance you're looking for is either extremely vague or completely meaningless... it seems like you're just looking for a bunch of people to agree with you and say they're fans of the team first so you can tell them to shut up. Maybe its a bad question if there's only one answer you'll accept and you already know what it is.

[funandgunner]

Originally Posted by That Guy

you'll be arguing with yourself then cause it looks like this substance you're looking for is either extremely vague or completely meaningless... it seems like you're just looking for a bunch of people to agree with you and say they're fans of the team first so you can tell them to shut up. Maybe its a bad question if there's only one answer you'll accept and you already know what it is.

I am not looking to accept and expect one answer, just an answer that seems reasonable - do you have one that sounds good ? Cause no one's able to say anything reasonable - and i'm not looking for people to agree - that's why I posted what I posted - I know not a lot of people are going to disagree because everyone appears to be sensitive when I question your loyalty to the redskins, because I think this is what all this is about. I won't tiptoe around it and I won't accept any answers that tiptoe and attempt to go around what I asked. Like your responses, you haven't responded to anything - just criticized my questions and how I'm asking them. If I have struck a cord with someone like yourself then I think I am getting somewhere. You guys want to be happy go lucky - that's all good - then don't respond to this. And I don't want people to just shut up - if you have a good response to, I think are, reasonable questions then speak up - but you don't have to say anything that I want to hear - just what you think and I will agree if I think it sounds right or I won't - but one of my points is you don't have to say anything on here to make anyone happy - just the truth...

... but I still haven't seen a good response from you or anyone else, refuting my argument - just a bunch of don't do this or you can't say that or I want a certain kind of response.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by funandgunner

Bottomline you 56er's are just that - Arrington fanatics. Even when he says one thing - you 56er's say he was forced to say it. No matter what he says or does, he will be a god to you guys. That's my point - you guys don't have a clue and yeah i'm calling out your loyalty to the team - because you are looking after another player's best interest at the expense of the team. I can question your loyalty to the team if that is how i see it, it's MY OPINION - no one else's - and if you feel enraged or whatever because of my post - then you have issues. If you are letting my post affect you that much, then I must be pushing the right buttons - and there may be questions that you need to ask yourself. You can attack me for my opinion - but at the same time you better know that what you post is also fair game. And I will call it like I see - no holds barred. If you guys take offense to me calling out your loyalty to the team, then so be it - i'm not holding back my opinions for no one. I mean it's even in your member name - 56 fanatic.

And yeah i think without gibbs, this year and last year - there would not be a team and we would have you ramsey, arrington fanatics running wild and out of control. I am fans of players,but first I'm a fan of the redskins - gibbs is the team, he controls the attitude, direction, and what happens on the field - without him, there is no team. If think differently, then let me know why he isn't the team...

I may be posting this really late, but you seem like the kind of person that wants to argue so I'm sure you will read this eventually. You questioning my loyalty to the Redskins is rediculous. Because I feel one player is better than another and should play, boy thats really smart!! If I thought Betts was better than Portis, I would say it. You have got to be kidding me. I have been a fan(DIE HARD) fan for 31 years. I have always had opinions of who I THOUGHT was better. You and everyone else questions moves the teams make, and dont say that you dont. Its part of being a fan. The reason I have 56 in my name is because I watched LaVar at Penn State, and thought was excited he was drafted by Washington. I also watched Taylor through college, so I am a huge Taylor fan. Just because I like certain players does not mean I am not a team fan. Hell, I love all of Redskins. I guess I should change my screen name to 76fanatic, that way I wont have to listen to mindless little rants from people like you questioning my loyalty to this team.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by funandgunner

I am not looking to accept and expect one answer, just an answer that seems reasonable - do you have one that sounds good ? Cause no one's able to say anything reasonable - and i'm not looking for people to agree - that's why I posted what I posted - I know not a lot of people are going to disagree because everyone appears to be sensitive when I question your loyalty to the redskins, because I think this is what all this is about. I won't tiptoe around it and I won't accept any answers that tiptoe and attempt to go around what I asked. Like your responses, you haven't responded to anything - just criticized my questions and how I'm asking them. If I have struck a cord with someone like yourself then I think I am getting somewhere. You guys want to be happy go lucky - that's all good - then don't respond to this. And I don't want people to just shut up - if you have a good response to, I think are, reasonable questions then speak up - but you don't have to say anything that I want to hear - just what you think and I will agree if I think it sounds right or I won't - but one of my points is you don't have to say anything on here to make anyone happy - just the truth...

... but I still haven't seen a good response from you or anyone else, refuting my argument - just a bunch of don't do this or you can't say that or I want a certain kind of response.

no one has a fscking clue what you're arguement is, you're just argueing to argue, its stupid and pointless. If you've read my posts over this thing, I've always stated that i think lavar should play but i trust the coaches because they've proven themselves competent. You obviously missed that though, and I doubt you've struck any cord besides being generally annoying.

[MTK]

Wow, what a surprise, another thread going nowhere.

goodbye