Postgame thoughts

RedskinRat · 09-12-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnyfan

Not sure I care what you are saying? We suck....bottom line. And you keep coming up with excuses as to why we are going to be good and keep getting disappointed......don't call me an a hole again.

Gentlemen, please keep it civil.

If you're going to make statements like 'We suck' at least post proof or substantiate to some degree. 'We suck' brings nothing to the forum.

Thank you for your kind attention in this matter.

scowan · 09-12-2005, 01:46 PM

Any of you guys notice that after A. Brown fumbled that Ladell Betts returned the next Kick Off. I would Let Ladell return them from now on. A. Brown even scares me on Punt Returns, because he doesn't call Fair Catch when guys are all over him. That is really scary! He may have speed, but he can't break a tackle at all. The first guy that makes the least bit of contact on him, knocks him down. I want Ramsey against the Cowboys like the rest of you guys posting on this thread, but Gibbs may go with Brunell and try to win ugly again next week. One more thing, WE NEED TURNOVERS!!! Especially against Dallas if we hope to win on the road. Our beloved Skins are not good enough to beat Dallas if we don't win the turnover ratio next Monday.

RedskinRat · 09-12-2005, 02:09 PM

I think that Brown had enough of a learning experience to stay with him for a while. He's a great return man, like Hall in KC. Just you watch.

crlesh · 09-12-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

I think that Brown had enough of a learning experience to stay with him for a while. He's a great return man, like Hall in KC. Just you watch.

I think return men have to have a mentality similar to cornerbacks. They have to be able to forget everything that has happened on bad plays and focus on the next play. Just like a cornerback, if a return man's confidence is shaken, he's going to fall apart quickly. You see it at least once a year in the NFL - a formerly solid return man fumbles a kickoff or punt, and suddenly he has hands like feet for the rest of the game.

The coaches will have to determine Brown's confidence level and make a decision based on that.

JWsleep · 09-12-2005, 02:53 PM

If A Brown puts the ball on the ground again, he's toast. That's 2 in close games (Dallas and Chicago)--it cannot happen.

Here's a dissapoiting thing about yesterday--and I know this is pissing off Gibbs big time. We tried over the offseason to fix (among other things) 3 glaring problems--TOs, stupid penalties, and special teams. Yesterday, we lost the TO battle, had a TD taken away on a penalty, and had a special teams fumble and a 2 pnealties that completly altered the field position situation. When you stress things, you'd like to see improvment! Gibbs said something in his press conference like, "we're going to consider some different ways to get these points across." Hope they figure it out, because this is the difference (along with the redzone stuff). Still, these are fixable things in our own hands, so there's hope yet.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 09-12-2005, 03:31 PM

LOL......I just can't believe some of the posts on here. Here I thought we actually won yesterday.......oh wait, that's right.....we did win. Reading these posts you wouldn't know it.

It's already been said a million times so I won't restate it all again, but I'm with Matty on all of his posts. Unless you guys have severe short-term memory loss, you'd have to be blind not to see that the offense looked a lot better yesterday than last year. We dominated the field on both sides of the ball. Yes, we've still got issues getting it into the endzone......and those issues MUST be worked out if we are going to beat better competition........ but if you had told me last year that we'd get 300+ yards of total offense, run the ball for almost 5 per carry, and dominate time of posession......I'd be a pretty happy camper.

You wanted us to open up the offense: we did. You wanted to take shots downfield: did that too. You wanted a better YPC average for Portis: accomplished. You wanted better pass protection: done. You wanted less rediculous penalties and clock management issues: significantly reduced. You wanted less 3-and-outs: done. Yet all some of you can do is bit#h and wine like little girls. I'm just glad I didn't log on until today so that you all didn't kill my buzz yesterday from enjoying a win and a promising improvement over last year.

I'll just end with a plea that we not give up on the entire season before we actually lose a game......Please.

cpayne5 · 09-12-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Yet all some of you can do is bit#h and wine like little girls.

I nominate this for post of the year.

That Guy · 09-12-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnyfan

Not sure I care what you are saying? We suck....bottom line. And you keep coming up with excuses as to why we are going to be good and keep getting disappointed......don't call me an a hole again.

then please stop acting like one. I'm sorry if you think I have no right to my opinion, or the right to express them. And i've come up with no excuses, I just said we kept it close last year... how the hell is that an excuse? So I have no idea what your responding to, but its obviously isn't something I said.

MTK · 09-12-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

I nominate this for post of the year.

I'll second that, his entire post by the way, not just the part about acting like little girls even though that was great.

skinnyfan · 09-12-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

then please stop acting like one. I'm sorry if you think I have no right to my opinion, or the right to express them. And i've come up with no excuses, I just said we kept it close last year... how the hell is that an excuse? So I have no idea what your responding to, but its obviously isn't something I said.

You win dude.....we'll keep it close this year.....but we won't win more than 6 games because of our inept offense.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 09-12-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'll second that, his entire post by the way, not just the part about acting like little girls even though that was great.

Thank you, thank you.

I'll gladly accept the nomination and consider it an honor just to be nominated.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 09-12-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnyfan

You win dude.....we'll keep it close this year.....but we won't win more than 6 games because of our inept offense.

Our "inept" offense had more yards than 14 other teams yesterday.
Our "inept" offense had fewer penalties than every other NFL team except for the Chiefs, Lions and Steelers.
Our "inept" offense held the ball (T.O.P.) for longer than all but 3 teams yesterday.

Again, we need to work on getting the TD instead of the FG, but I hardly think our offense looked "inept". Want to see inept? Look at some footage of our early games last year.

kingerock · 09-12-2005, 05:39 PM

I'm looking at the replays from Moss... then the replays from Coles

Coles missed HUGE opportunities and dropped a couple passes
6 catches for 66 yds.

Moss made big plays and had no glaring mistakes
4 catches for 92 yards

cya Coles

Then I'm looking at the replays from Patten and then the replays from Gardner

Patten had limited action but like Moss, no glaring mistakes
3 catches for 19 yards

Gardner was... he had... he made... can't seem to find him on the field
0 catches for 0 yards

cya Gardner

Gardner's new team scored 20 points and 350 yards ----- 0-1
Coles' new team scored 7 points (junk time TD) and 390 yards of offense ----- 0-1
My Redskins; only 9 points and 323 yards offense ----- 1-0

15 more games to go, but we're doing just fine if you ask me

kingerock · 09-12-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Our "inept" offense had more yards than 14 other teams yesterday.
Our "inept" offense had fewer penalties than every other NFL team except for the Chiefs, Lions and Steelers.
Our "inept" offense held the ball (T.O.P.) for longer than all but 3 teams yesterday.

Again, we need to work on getting the TD instead of the FG, but I hardly think our offense looked "inept". Want to see inept? Look at some footage of our early games last year.

I've been saying all offseason... if we have a top 16 offense and a top 10 defense we'll make the playoffs. We're built like the 2000 Baltimore Ravens and we just need the offense to manage the game and let the defense win it.

Hijinx · 09-12-2005, 06:22 PM

The Offence didn't do as badly as the score board would sugest nor as well as the yards total would make it seem. No TD's is something to worry about. It seemed to me there were not enough shots taken down the feild. The running game isn't going to produce if they can stack 8 men in the box. I think the biggest problem is the red zone offence. Three red zone chances ended in 2 FGs and a fumble, not good enough. The next biggest problem was turnovers 4 fumbles and 1 INT(almost 2 INT). Nothing is a team killer more then turnovers.

The D was amazing, yeah we needed more pas rush, but they only let them in our red zone once.(As a result of a fumble) Any game where the Skins give up less then 50 yards rushing is almost certainly going to be a win.

09-12-2005, 01:46 PM	#77
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 55 Posts: 1,559	Re: Postgame thoughts Any of you guys notice that after A. Brown fumbled that Ladell Betts returned the next Kick Off. I would Let Ladell return them from now on. A. Brown even scares me on Punt Returns, because he doesn't call Fair Catch when guys are all over him. That is really scary! He may have speed, but he can't break a tackle at all. The first guy that makes the least bit of contact on him, knocks him down. I want Ramsey against the Cowboys like the rest of you guys posting on this thread, but Gibbs may go with Brunell and try to win ugly again next week. One more thing, WE NEED TURNOVERS!!! Especially against Dallas if we hope to win on the road. Our beloved Skins are not good enough to beat Dallas if we don't win the turnover ratio next Monday.

09-12-2005, 02:09 PM	#78
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Postgame thoughts I think that Brown had enough of a learning experience to stay with him for a while. He's a great return man, like Hall in KC. Just you watch.

09-12-2005, 02:53 PM	#80
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	Re: Postgame thoughts If A Brown puts the ball on the ground again, he's toast. That's 2 in close games (Dallas and Chicago)--it cannot happen. Here's a dissapoiting thing about yesterday--and I know this is pissing off Gibbs big time. We tried over the offseason to fix (among other things) 3 glaring problems--TOs, stupid penalties, and special teams. Yesterday, we lost the TO battle, had a TD taken away on a penalty, and had a special teams fumble and a 2 pnealties that completly altered the field position situation. When you stress things, you'd like to see improvment! Gibbs said something in his press conference like, "we're going to consider some different ways to get these points across." Hope they figure it out, because this is the difference (along with the redzone stuff). Still, these are fixable things in our own hands, so there's hope yet. __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-12-2005, 03:31 PM	#81
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 48 Posts: 1,340	Re: Postgame thoughts LOL......I just can't believe some of the posts on here. Here I thought we actually won yesterday.......oh wait, that's right.....we did win. Reading these posts you wouldn't know it. It's already been said a million times so I won't restate it all again, but I'm with Matty on all of his posts. Unless you guys have severe short-term memory loss, you'd have to be blind not to see that the offense looked a lot better yesterday than last year. We dominated the field on both sides of the ball. Yes, we've still got issues getting it into the endzone......and those issues MUST be worked out if we are going to beat better competition........ but if you had told me last year that we'd get 300+ yards of total offense, run the ball for almost 5 per carry, and dominate time of posession......I'd be a pretty happy camper. You wanted us to open up the offense: we did. You wanted to take shots downfield: did that too. You wanted a better YPC average for Portis: accomplished. You wanted better pass protection: done. You wanted less rediculous penalties and clock management issues: significantly reduced. You wanted less 3-and-outs: done. Yet all some of you can do is bit#h and wine like little girls. I'm just glad I didn't log on until today so that you all didn't kill my buzz yesterday from enjoying a win and a promising improvement over last year. I'll just end with a plea that we not give up on the entire season before we actually lose a game......Please. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

09-12-2005, 05:39 PM	#88
kingerock Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Killeen, TX Age: 48 Posts: 360	Re: Postgame thoughts I'm looking at the replays from Moss... then the replays from Coles Coles missed HUGE opportunities and dropped a couple passes 6 catches for 66 yds. Moss made big plays and had no glaring mistakes 4 catches for 92 yards cya Coles Then I'm looking at the replays from Patten and then the replays from Gardner Patten had limited action but like Moss, no glaring mistakes 3 catches for 19 yards Gardner was... he had... he made... can't seem to find him on the field 0 catches for 0 yards cya Gardner Gardner's new team scored 20 points and 350 yards ----- 0-1 Coles' new team scored 7 points (junk time TD) and 390 yards of offense ----- 0-1 My Redskins; only 9 points and 323 yards offense ----- 1-0 15 more games to go, but we're doing just fine if you ask me __________________ Redskins fan lost in Texas for 20 years. Need a ride to D.C.

09-12-2005, 06:22 PM	#90
Hijinx The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 49 Posts: 1,961	Re: Postgame thoughts The Offence didn't do as badly as the score board would sugest nor as well as the yards total would make it seem. No TD's is something to worry about. It seemed to me there were not enough shots taken down the feild. The running game isn't going to produce if they can stack 8 men in the box. I think the biggest problem is the red zone offence. Three red zone chances ended in 2 FGs and a fumble, not good enough. The next biggest problem was turnovers 4 fumbles and 1 INT(almost 2 INT). Nothing is a team killer more then turnovers. The D was amazing, yeah we needed more pas rush, but they only let them in our red zone once.(As a result of a fumble) Any game where the Skins give up less then 50 yards rushing is almost certainly going to be a win.

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