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Old 12-06-2010, 08:51 PM   #76
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Re: It's Talent, Not Coaching.

The Bills didn't ditch the 3-4. They just have some more 4-3 sets because of injuries. But they're still basically a 3-4
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:01 PM   #77
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Re: It's Talent, Not Coaching.

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Conveniently ignoring the already-cited fact that Buffalo is performing far better now that they've ditched the 3-4. BTW, that supposedly horrid Bills D only coughed up 20.4 per game(slightly better than us) despite being prone to absolute dud games.

You're confusing long term potential with short-term performance. Just because guys like Fletch isn't going to be giving much years down the road doesn't mean that they can't play now. Also, some of the moves would have never even be considered if the 3-4 switch did not happen. Kemo, Bryant, Carriker, and Holliday would not even be here. We would have been debating which 4-3 SOLB candidates to grab in the draft or FA this past offseason.

Carriker is the only one who fits the 3-4 to a T and is proven to have failed in a 4-3.
I must have forgotten the rule which states that whatever works for the Buffalo Bills will naturally work for the Redskins.

What on earth are you watching that leads you to believe these guys can play effectively now after what we've seen all year? What were you doing this Sunday at 1pm? Did you actually watch the game?

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Also, some of the moves would have never even be considered if the 3-4 switch did not happen. Kemo, Bryant, Carriker, and Holliday would not even be here. We would have been debating which 4-3 SOLB candidates to grab in the draft or FA this past offseason.
And which players from last year would be giving us All-Pro performances if only they had stayed in a 4-3? Golston and Haynesworth? Andre Carter, Rocky McIntosh, -- oh yeah, we'd be a "top ten defense" at this very moment if Shanny hadn't come along and screwed everything up, right?

It's also a fact that they are still using the 4-3. Which is why it's a fact that if Haslett had never been hired, and if the same scheme had been carried over from last year, we'd be in exactly the same horrific situation.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:23 PM   #78
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Re: It's Talent, Not Coaching.

Can't totally let Shanny off the hook. The lunacy surrounding the McNabb incident is enough to have doubts about this guy. Not saying he isn't a good coach, but he isn't infallible. Remember, this guy hasn't won squat since Elway retired, and he had loads of talent in Denver since then, in the weakest division in the NFL no doubt.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:35 PM   #79
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I must have forgotten the rule which states that whatever works for the Buffalo Bills will naturally work for the Redskins.

What on earth are you watching that leads you to believe these guys can play effectively now after what we've seen all year? What were you doing this Sunday at 1pm? Did you actually watch the game?



And which players from last year would be giving us All-Pro performances if only they had stayed in a 4-3? Golston and Haynesworth? Andre Carter, Rocky McIntosh, -- oh yeah, we'd be a "top ten defense" at this very moment if Shanny hadn't come along and screwed everything up, right?

It's also a fact that they are still using the 4-3. Which is why it's a fact that if Haslett had never been hired, and if the same scheme had been carried over from last year, we'd be in exactly the same horrific situation.
Yeah, because Football Outsider's stats are just as bad as regular ones.

They're still using a 4-3? They may be using fronts with 4 men with the nickel package, but they never ever have use 4 down linemen. And you think someone else is going to be exactly the same as Blache scheme-wise?

It's common knowledge that the 3-4 needs a NT to work. The NT has a very specific role that 4-3 DTs do not perform. Our NTs sucking makes EVERYONE ELSE look worse because the 3-4 is that dependent on having NT. You seem to suffer from perceiving everyone is sucking worse than they actually are precisely because of this.
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