Tebow or McCoy?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Tebow even does wedding engagements, the guy has talent!

YouTube - Tim Tebow Proposes Before the Draft - Mike Rothman

F*****k bastard. And to think I was just on a Jimmy Clausen kick.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think Okung or Suh would be close to 100% in approval. But after that, someone is always going to hate the pick.

I'd be happy with either; however the "problem" with Okung is that we could probably get a tackle 90% as good 10-20 picks later in the draft. if Suh were on the board, i'd be pretty pissed if we did anything other than drafting him or trading down, since we would have plenty of offers.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by murphy196

One of the most knowledgeable comments I've seen on this board regarding Tebow, McCoy and Bradford. I have to disagree about Clausen. The defenses that ND had while he was there were horrible, they could never stop anyone, it was pathetic. In my opinion, I think he is the most NFL ready QB coming out this year, without a doubt. If he gets picked up by a team that has some talent (Redskins), he will do very well.

That part about Clausen wasn't supposed to be a knock against him per say, but he did have more talent than most of the guys I mentioned after him like Lefevour or Kafka, but like you say the ND defense sucked eggs. My thing is Clausen would be in the same category as the others since he played teams on the same talent level as ND. I think the guys that played on average teams that played opponents of similar or superior talent levels should be really looked at. They could probably handle parity better or even inferiority. The Shuler/Frerotte comparison was the best example I could think of.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

You want Tebow you can have him. He is a project at best.

lets not forget the thread title. tebow or mccoy. i'm not sure tebow is anyones first choice at qb.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

lets not forget the thread title. tebow or mccoy. i'm not sure tebow is anyones first choice at qb.

But at the same time he could be as high as second. Most likely third on the list of teams that like him. It's just that some teams won't take Clausen till the second and that isn't likely to happen.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

But at the same time he could be as high as second. Most likely third on the list of teams that like him. It's just that some teams won't take Clausen till the second and that isn't likely to happen.

let me clarify, i dont think tebow is first on the list of anyone here on this site. most would prolly want bradford or clauson. but you are correct in what you said.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Tebow even does wedding engagements, the guy has talent!

YouTube - Tim Tebow Proposes Before the Draft - Mike Rothman

After watching this and the Philippines missionary video...it's getting real hard to not want this guy on the team. And yes, I think he can play.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I'd be happy with either; however the "problem" with Okung is that we could probably get a tackle 90% as good 10-20 picks later in the draft. if Suh were on the board, i'd be pretty pissed if we did anything other than drafting him or trading down, since we would have plenty of offers.

The only real OT in the draft that I would consider about 90% as good as Okung would be Trent Williams. Anthony Davis, Charles Brown, and Brian Bulaga all come with immediate value, but I would file them in "best of the rest" territory.

I'm higher on Davis than most because I think he's a top three LT in this draft, but I'd obviously feel a lot better about him had Andre Smith been a positive contributor on the 2009 Bengals. I don't necessarily think Smith is a bust nor is Davis any way dependent on Smith to be successful, but as long as teams are going to back their evaluations on these "character issue" types with their dollar, I'd really like to see it pay off for someone first.

I wouldn't be unhappy with any of the above, but ultimately, when you are trying to improve a team, you do that by grabbing the best player you can get who won't be blocked by a veteran. Any situation where we land Okung, it'd be tough to argue that we didn't get the best player available. But going further on down that list, we might then be passing up steals to address an obvious need.

Okung is the offensive Suh in this draft, but there is no Gerald McCoy comparable. The next best offensive player is probably Spiller.

[SmootSmack]

Spiller!!!!!!!

My mock still has us taking Trent Williams

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Spiller!!!!!!!

My mock still has us taking Trent Williams

Do you have him playing left or right tackle?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

After watching this and the Philippines missionary video...it's getting real hard to not want this guy on the team. And yes, I think he can play.

maybe he can go start NFL Philippines or something

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Spiller!!!!!!!

My mock still has us taking Trent Williams

I hope your mock turns out to be right. I heard somewhere on Twitter that although Okung may be the best prospect, Williams may be the best tackle in 3 years.

[hail_2_da_skins]

None of the above. If either of these quarterbacks are selected, they will need at least a couple of years to develop. I voted Colt McCoy because I don't think Tebow is a pro quarterback. He would be great for the wildcat offense.

[jdc65]

I think either QB can excel given the proper system, coaching, and personnel.

[mlmdub130]

there should be a box for suicide, i would choose that over tebow and mccoy