Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense

CultBrennan59 · 01-14-2010, 06:18 PM

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Lotus · 01-14-2010, 07:05 PM

In the poll two people have voted so far for "other." What is the other? An Okie 5-2? A wide tackle 6? A 46? Just curious.

Trample the Elderly · 01-14-2010, 11:47 PM

I've been giving this a lot of thought. Although we don't have the players for a 3-4 IMO I think we should do it. Why? Well we don't have a very good 4-3 defense either. If you're going to do it, then do it now. I know a lot of people say that out defense is good but they haven't played good. They're not the Ravens of old. If we do go to a 3-4 I say draft MT Cody. I'm confident that Shanny-Allen will do what it takes to win in the next few years. For now I'm just going to write off next season as a building year. Honestly how many of these guys are worth it?

Redskin Warrior · 01-15-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

In the poll two people have voted so far for "other." What is the other? An Okie 5-2? A wide tackle 6? A 46? Just curious.

I like the formation on NCAA the 4-2-5

freddyg12 · 01-15-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

People say we dont have the personell for a 3-4....Dont forget we have Montgomery at 330 lbs that can play NT with Griffin & Haynesworth backing him up...

DE Jarmon, Golston, Alexander, Haynesworth...all 280 lbs(+)
ILB Fletcher, Henson, McIntosh,Blades,
OLB Orakpo, Wilson, Carter

All we need to add is an additional 3-4 OLB, through the draft

yeah, I thought about it more & you're right, there wouldn't be a wholesale personel change needed. We would need LBs as you point out, but that's a need the team went into the last draft with, and still remains today even if we stay in a 4-3. Fletch has 1 year left IMO & the strong side at least needs depth in order to give Rak more DE snaps.

I still hope that we don't go for a 3-4 base, rather Haslett mixes in some 3-4.

freddyg12 · 01-15-2010, 10:47 AM

Questions for all:
1) If Suh is available, do we take him? I say yes, best player in draft.
2) What impact will that have on 4-3 v. 3-4?
(I don't see him as a NT)

53Fan · 01-15-2010, 11:00 AM

Playing Suh in a 3-4 would be a complete waste IMO. A BAD idea. I don't see him as a NT either Freddy.

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-15-2010, 11:05 AM

If we want to switch to a 3-4, we should really wait until next year to do it. we have too many problems with our offense to worry about completely overhauling our defense in the same offseason. i voted for a 4-3/3-4 hybrid. stick with the 4-3 as our base package this year, but incorporate a fair amount of 3-4 to get some of our players more acclimated to it. Any defensive front 7 players we pick up in free agency or the draft this year should be able to fit in both systems.

GhettoDogAllStars · 01-15-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

In the poll two people have voted so far for "other." What is the other? An Okie 5-2? A wide tackle 6? A 46? Just curious.

I answered "other" for the 46. In a way I was joking, because it's hard to pull-off, but in another way I'd like to see us pull it off. It's a dominant run-stopping defense, which in my eyes, should be the first focus for a defense -- but you've gotta be able to stop the pass as well so you need great and fast DBs.

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-15-2010, 11:50 AM

How about the 11 defense. 11 sumo wrestlers knock everyone down the second the ball is snapped.

Mc2guy · 01-15-2010, 12:20 PM

I am not sure if it has been mentioned, but G Williams used to run a lot of 3-4 looks on third down and other passing situations.

I could see us using a base 4-3 on running downs and switching to the 3-4 look on obvious passing downs to free up more edge rushing options with Orakpo.

Given his conditioning, Haynesworth is only going to play for 2 downs a series anyway, so you can keep him happy and focused on being disruptive in our 4-3 looks.

Ruhskins · 01-15-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Questions for all:
1) If Suh is available, do we take him? I say yes, best player in draft.
2) What impact will that have on 4-3 v. 3-4?
(I don't see him as a NT)

Suh won't get past Detroit or Tampa Bay unless he blows out his knee in the combine, commits a crime between now and the draft, or tests positive for all drugs known to man.

diehardskin2982 · 01-15-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Suh won't get past Detroit or Tampa Bay unless he blows out his knee in the combine, commits a crime between now and the draft, or tests positive for all drugs known to man.

all at the same time too!

Dirtbag59 · 01-15-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

Playing Suh in a 3-4 would be a complete waste IMO. A BAD idea. I don't see him as a NT either Freddy.

Theres only one pure nosetackle in the draft and thats Terrance Cody. It's had to find guys right now in this class that weigh more then 310 pounds on the D-Line.

53Fan · 01-15-2010, 03:14 PM

Cody was built to be a NT....or a sumo wrestler.

View Poll Results: What defense do you want to see the Skins run in 2010?
4-3	38	24.36%
3-4	12	7.69%
4-3/3-4 hybrid	102	65.38%
other	4	2.56%
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01-14-2010, 06:18 PM	#76
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense For those of you who want Terrance Cody now... YouTube - 2009 Terrence Cody highlight.mp4

01-14-2010, 07:05 PM	#77
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense In the poll two people have voted so far for "other." What is the other? An Okie 5-2? A wide tackle 6? A 46? Just curious. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

01-14-2010, 11:47 PM	#78
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 2,906	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense I've been giving this a lot of thought. Although we don't have the players for a 3-4 IMO I think we should do it. Why? Well we don't have a very good 4-3 defense either. If you're going to do it, then do it now. I know a lot of people say that out defense is good but they haven't played good. They're not the Ravens of old. If we do go to a 3-4 I say draft MT Cody. I'm confident that Shanny-Allen will do what it takes to win in the next few years. For now I'm just going to write off next season as a building year. Honestly how many of these guys are worth it? __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

01-15-2010, 10:47 AM	#81
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense Questions for all: 1) If Suh is available, do we take him? I say yes, best player in draft. 2) What impact will that have on 4-3 v. 3-4? (I don't see him as a NT)

01-15-2010, 11:00 AM	#82
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense Playing Suh in a 3-4 would be a complete waste IMO. A BAD idea. I don't see him as a NT either Freddy. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

01-15-2010, 11:05 AM	#83
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense If we want to switch to a 3-4, we should really wait until next year to do it. we have too many problems with our offense to worry about completely overhauling our defense in the same offseason. i voted for a 4-3/3-4 hybrid. stick with the 4-3 as our base package this year, but incorporate a fair amount of 3-4 to get some of our players more acclimated to it. Any defensive front 7 players we pick up in free agency or the draft this year should be able to fit in both systems. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

01-15-2010, 11:50 AM	#85
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense How about the 11 defense. 11 sumo wrestlers knock everyone down the second the ball is snapped. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

01-15-2010, 12:20 PM	#86
Mc2guy Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Burke, VA Age: 48 Posts: 287	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense I am not sure if it has been mentioned, but G Williams used to run a lot of 3-4 looks on third down and other passing situations. I could see us using a base 4-3 on running downs and switching to the 3-4 look on obvious passing downs to free up more edge rushing options with Orakpo. Given his conditioning, Haynesworth is only going to play for 2 downs a series anyway, so you can keep him happy and focused on being disruptive in our 4-3 looks.

01-15-2010, 03:14 PM	#90
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense Cody was built to be a NT....or a sumo wrestler. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

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