Which Current NFL Receiver Is Best for Us?

[Meks]

they only want a 2nd rd pick for williams i heard... so throwing in lloyds just consilation... cuz i sure dont want him here

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I picked hackett because of his connections with Zorn, but I wish there was an option of none. I really don't think we need a receiver just because Moss dropped a couple of ball in mainly just one game(GB). I think ARE, McCardell, Caldwell and Trash are fine. WCO isn't really really huge on receivers just more the QB right?

Why not spend our money on a LB, S or CB? Please someone tell me why we should waste big bucks on a receiver beside the reason "he is big and psychical"..cough..Michael Westbrook..cough cough anyone?

One game?

WR is a need because guys like McCardell, Caldwell and Thrash are probably on the way out. So at the very least we need some depth.

Outside of 2005 Moss has been disappointing and not a #1 caliber WR.

[Meks]

^ that is true.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

At the bottom of the link you will see "Release Fees". Click on that tab and you will see the player's salary and release fee. If a player is released or traded the cap for that year will be hit with the "Release Fee", but the player's salary is then off the cap. So for ARE you wind up with $ 6.1M in dead-cap. Sometimes you have the June 1 cuts which I believe are allowed to be spread over two cap seasons, but the total Release Fee amount must be accounted for.

Lloyd's release fee is $ 7.1M, his salary is $ 4.2M, dead cap will be $ 2.9M, much more manageable, especially when he was completely non-productive.

OK, thanks...I think I get it now. I didn't even see those tabs the first time, I appreciate you pointing it out. I do have a couple questions:

I if they get traded does the same release fee apply???

I am also curious as to how it works for those with a smaller release fee than salary...does that mean we get that many back towards the cap?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

LOL who is going to want to trade for Brandon Lloyd??

No kidding.
It's like I said before the season started, last year was Lloyds last chance to become someone in the NFL, if he didn't, he would never be anyone special. I was right about it, however, I was wrong in thinking he would do well for us last year. It's a shame to have that much talent wasted. Damn shame.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

One game?

WR is a need because guys like McCardell, Caldwell and Thrash are probably on the way out. So at the very least we need some depth.

Outside of 2005 Moss has been disappointing and not a #1 caliber WR.

I haven't heard any rumors on Caldwell or McCardell, have you?

Also, knowing we need depth, and IMO an upgrade, do you think we'll look at Keyshawn Johnson? He has said he would interested in all 32 teams regardless if they will go 1-15 or 15-1.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I picked hackett because of his connections with Zorn, but I wish there was an option of none. I really don't think we need a receiver just because Moss dropped a couple of ball in mainly just one game(GB). I think ARE, McCardell, Caldwell and Trash are fine. WCO isn't really really huge on receivers just more the QB right?

In your version of football, who does the QB throw to? Of course WR is a huge part of the West Coast Offense..

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I haven't heard any rumors on Caldwell or McCardell, have you?

Also, knowing we need depth, and IMO an upgrade, do you think we'll look at Keyshawn Johnson? He has said he would interested in all 32 teams regardless if they will go 1-15 or 15-1.

Redskins are rumored to have concerns about Caldwell's knees. I'm hoping he shows he's healthy enough to stay because I think he could be quite good for us.

And we've got another thread going on Key

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Redskins are rumored to have concerns about Caldwell's knees. I'm hoping he shows he's healthy enough to stay because I think he could be quite good for us.

And we've got another thread going on Key

I haven't heard about his knees.
What about McCardell? I thought he was a great pickup.

Doesn't mean we can't talk about Keyshawn here, we are talking about which WR's to bring in.

[Redskins247]

I said Larry Fitzgerald...since most of these are dream situations anyway...I like everything about him....attitude, play, work ethic....I wanted him out of college. I really think Moss and ARE would work well out of the slot more. I could see Synder going after any of these guys really...or I could see us not getting anyone new and working with Espy and Mix...but the thing is with Zorn just coming in, he doesn't know those guys at all...and free agency is getting ready to start....so I say Snyder goes after someone.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I haven't heard about his knees.
What about McCardell? I thought he was a great pickup.

Doesn't mean we can't talk about Keyshawn here, we are talking about which WR's to bring in.

Fair enough about Key (although I guess technically he's not a current NFL receiver), I thought maybe you didn't realize there was a dedicated Keyshawn thread. I think he'll end up in Miami if anywhere

As for KM, he's a free agent and not likely to be re-signed.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I if they get traded does the same release fee apply???

I am also curious as to how it works for those with a smaller release fee than salary...does that mean we get that many back towards the cap?

1) Yes

2) Yes, for example if Phillip Daniels was released there would be a charge of $ 770K, but his salary of $ 3.7M would come off the books. A net cap savings of about $ 3M.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Fair enough about Key (although I guess technically he's not a current NFL receiver), I thought maybe you didn't realize there was a dedicated Keyshawn thread. I think he'll end up in Miami if anywhere

I think you're right, but something in his voice on ESPN earlier today made me think otherwise...especially when he said he'd be interested in all 32 teams. I know that was to try to make the blow to going to a 1-15 team easier for him mentally, but it just seemed like he'd be interested in other places. Hard to judge him right now. He likes Parcells for some reason, and he knows he will be the best WR in Miami if he goes there, but he could do really well elsewhere and not suffer through a horrendous season too. I for one would take another job for the chance of winning. Going through a 1-15 season would be torture.

As for KM, he's a free agent and not likely to be re-signed.

Is this because he is going to retire again, or we are not interested in him, or maybe other teams are interested in him?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

1) Yes

Well, that sucks. LOL.

2) Yes, for example if Phillip Daniels was released there would be a charge of $ 770K, but his salary of $ 3.7M would come off the books. A net cap savings of about $ 3M.

WOW...so why haven't we dropped Brunell? That would save us 3.4 mil.
For that matter, why not Daniels too? Between the two that would save us 6.387 mil for dead weight!

[SmootSmack]

Not really sure what will happen with KM. As for Key, I think that the Dolphins are most likely to give him close to what he wants (money-wise)