12th's 5 Reasons Why The Skins Beat N.E.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

right now I am realistically saying 38-24 Pats but my homer prediction is 30-24 in OT Redskins win.

The Redskins have only scored 24 points or more for ONE game all season, and that was at home against the Lions. Now they are on the road against the best team in football.

The Patriots defense has NEVER surrendered more than 20 points all season. (The two games where Miami and Dallas scored higher than 20 was due to a the opposing defense scoring on a turnover).

So how can you use the word "realistically" in that prediction? Because based on the stats, and, how the 'Skins have performed recently on offense that is not a "realistic" prediction.?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

I have the utmost respect for Tom Brady and this offense, but I dont think people understand how good this defense is. This is the same coach who took Randy Moss away every time we have played him, remember he shut Randy down with Garnell Wilds covering him, thats right. I really think this is the only secondary in the league that can match up with you guys, not saying we will shut you down, but we definately match up, I hope Welker is ready to get hit in the mouth. Its always cool to meet a fan from another team thats not a jackass.

That is because Randy Moss had no complement, no threatening #2 guy with his other teams. Go ahead and double up Moss, go high-low on him. Welker will have that secondary for lunch just as soon as you do. Have you seen Welkers number the last 3 games? Then try and cover Welker too and you will see what Stallworth can do. And lets not forget Watson.

That is my point, they have WAY WAY too many weapons, as soon as you THINK you have one neutralized, the other one burns you. They have 3 WRs that practically demand being doubled at all times because of thier talent level, but there is just not enough players on defense to do that.

[Monkeydad]

Tom Brady, meet Mr. Carter. You'll have plenty of opportunities to get to know him better on Sunday.

[PFunk26]

I'm gonna jump on the homer boat and call a win, mostly because of the reports about the offensive players being ashamed of their performance last week, I think they really feel they need to step up this game and take some weight off the D and that might be the best motivation anyone can give.

[bertoskins2]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

That is because Randy Moss had no complement, no threatening #2 guy with his other teams. Go ahead and double up Moss, go high-low on him. Welker will have that secondary for lunch just as soon as you do. Have you seen Welkers number the last 3 games? Then try and cover Welker too and you will see what Stallworth can do. And lets not forget Watson.

That is my point, they have WAY WAY too many weapons, as soon as you THINK you have one neutralized, the other one burns you. They have 3 WRs that practically demand being doubled at all times because of thier talent level, but there is just not enough players on defense to do that.

maybe the cowpukes have only roy horse collar williams to put chains on the pats 3 magnificent receivers

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

The Redskins have only scored 24 points or more for ONE game all season, and that was at home against the Lions. Now they are on the road against the best team in football.

The Patriots defense has NEVER surrendered more than 20 points all season. (The two games where Miami and Dallas scored higher than 20 was due to a the opposing defense scoring on a turnover).

So how can you use the word "realistically" in that prediction? Because based on the stats, and, how the 'Skins have performed recently on offense that is not a "realistic" prediction.?

and last time I checked we have scored on Defense in 2 of the last 3 games and if our FG kicker hits the FG on the opening drive of the 3rd Qtr we have 24 points, so 24 points is not out of the question and remember Jsaon Campell overthrew a wide open Santana Moss on monday night that would have given us 27

[Paintrain]

I love the optimism of the post.. I don't really see a logical way for us to go into there and beat them, but I'm willing to buy into 'on any given Sunday' so I have a glimmer of hope..

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

The Redskins have only scored 24 points or more for ONE game all season, and that was at home against the Lions. Now they are on the road against the best team in football.

The Patriots defense has NEVER surrendered more than 20 points all season. (The two games where Miami and Dallas scored higher than 20 was due to a the opposing defense scoring on a turnover).

So how can you use the word "realistically" in that prediction? Because based on the stats, and, how the 'Skins have performed recently on offense that is not a "realistic" prediction.?

I know you're not a Redskins fan, so I'll give you some wiggle-room to make some stupid statements (j/k). We have been playing down to the level of our opponents. For the most part, when we get leads, we sit on them. We don't feel compelled to go for the throat and risk losing games because our defense is usually good enough to come in and close them. Your logic that "because they haven't put up lots of points, they can't put up lots of points" is wrong IMO.

We're going to try to play up to the level of the Pats and, though we will almost certainly lose by at least one touchdown and our offense will struggle, I don't think it is at all unrealistic to expect them to score more than 20 points. If the Fins can do it, I see no reason why we cannot.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

and last time I checked we have scored on Defense in 2 of the last 3 games and if our FG kicker hits the FG on the opening drive of the 3rd Qtr we have 24 points, so 24 points is not out of the question and remember Jsaon Campell overthrew a wide open Santana Moss on monday night that would have given us 27

Never said it was out of the question, just not realistic is all.

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

if our FG kicker hits the FG on the opening drive of the 3rd Qtr we have 24 points

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Jason Campell overthrew a wide open Santana Moss on monday night that would have given us 27

So now you're saying that "realistic" is based on "if"?

Originally Posted by bertoskins2

maybe the cowpukes have only roy horse collar williams to put chains on the pats 3 magnificent receivers

Maybe and maybe not, but I doubt to see what Roy Williams has to do with whether or not the Redskins defensive backfield can do it either, which is what I thought was being discussed. But, not that it would have mattered, Newman was playing injured at about 75% and Henry did not play due to injury in the Patriots game. Dallas had second stringers in there most of the game. Again, not that it would have mattered.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I still say we score at least 24.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

That is because Randy Moss had no complement, no threatening #2 guy with his other teams. Go ahead and double up Moss, go high-low on him. Welker will have that secondary for lunch just as soon as you do. Have you seen Welkers number the last 3 games? Then try and cover Welker too and you will see what Stallworth can do. And lets not forget Watson.

That is my point, they have WAY WAY too many weapons, as soon as you THINK you have one neutralized, the other one burns you. They have 3 WRs that practically demand being doubled at all times because of thier talent level, but there is just not enough players on defense to do that.

We dont have to double Moss, we have a much better secondary than you think.

[redsk1]

My 5 reasons...

The Pats are due for an "offweek" at some point, might as well be against us

Indy awaits next week

Our D is pretty good, #1 in the NFC good, and the Pats haven't faced a good D yet

The skins generally play well in games you don't expect them to be in

Joe Gibbs / G Williams have some pride and will instill this in our players this week


My 2 cents...I truly believe this will be closer than people think. If I was a gambler, I'd take the skins as 17 pts underdogs. We may not win but it will be a close game. We'll see.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by chris66

so what your saying is the skins are going to rush 4 and play zone with the lb's. I can see welker having a 16 catch game if this happens. You might start out like that , but will change quickly having to bring up a safety to help in the slot leaving moss or stallworth one on one on the outside, plus the fact if you only rush 4-5 brady will have time to make sandwiches back there

See, I don't know where people are getting that Welker is this beast receiver all of a sudden. For the most part, the Cardinals WRs, who are arguably better than Stallworth and Welker, didn't do much against the Skins until WAY late in the game, and even then, it wasn't much.

I'm a little concerned about the Moss match-up, but I really think the Skins corners will hold their own against Stallworth and Welker.

I'm far more concerned about Watson than those other two.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

See, I don't know where people are getting that Welker is this beast receiver all of a sudden. For the most part, the Cardinals WRs, who are arguably better than Stallworth and Welker, didn't do much against the Skins until WAY late in the game, and even then, it wasn't much.

I'm a little concerned about the Moss match-up, but I really think the Skins corners will hold their own against Stallworth and Welker.

I'm far more concerned about Watson than those other two.

Yeah, the Welker thing is killing me too. This is a guy who's taken advantage of teams having to double up on Moss. Don't get me wrong, he's good, but let's not get carried away either. Ditto Stallworth.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

That is because Randy Moss had no complement, no threatening #2 guy with his other teams. Go ahead and double up Moss, go high-low on him. Welker will have that secondary for lunch just as soon as you do. Have you seen Welkers number the last 3 games? Then try and cover Welker too and you will see what Stallworth can do. And lets not forget Watson.

That is my point, they have WAY WAY too many weapons, as soon as you THINK you have one neutralized, the other one burns you. They have 3 WRs that practically demand being doubled at all times because of thier talent level, but there is just not enough players on defense to do that.

I'm sorry, but Welker and Stallworth don't demand being doubled, at least not with our secondary. Maybe some other secondaries in the NFL, but not this one. Yes, they demand attention, just as Watson does. This will be a tough test, no doubt. But, I think the Skins will surprise some people this week. Even if they don't win the game, I think you will see them give the Pats the best game yet this year.