How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Problem with Haskins is he isn’t showing growth. Bad feet, bad accuracy and no touch on his passes.

just the opposite . . . he is shrinking

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Problem with Haskins is he isn’t showing growth. Bad feet, bad accuracy and no touch on his passes.

This is the problem, Haskins is regressing. He is reverting back to his bad habits. His footwork and placement is terrible and getting worse.
Haskins never learned and absorbed the fundamentals, he never learned the mental part of the game.
There was a more sane time in the NFL when players like Haskins carried a clip board, learned by watching and are coached up in practice for year or two. . Why is that so FUCKING TERRIBLE now in today's NFL? What is wrong with him taking the time to learn? Joe Theismann rode the bench for two years before starting.
RR is absolutely right it is not fair to the rest of the team, coaching staff and fans to force Haskins in when he is not ready. Most importantly it is not fair to Haskins to get his ego crushed every weekend. NFL defenses are no joke. There is no Tulane's or Wake Forest's in the NFL. Haskins is not ready to start even against Cleveland. Imagine if we were playing against a top team this past weekend.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

This is the problem, Haskins is regressing. He is reverting back to his bad habits. His footwork and placement is terrible and getting worse.
Haskins never learned and absorbed the fundamentals, he never learned the mental part of the game.
There was a more sane time in the NFL when players like Haskins carried a clip board, learned by watching and are coached up in practice for year or two. . Why is that so FUCKING TERRIBLE now in today's NFL? What is wrong with him taking the time to learn? Joe Theismann rode the bench for two years before starting.
RR is absolutely right it is not fair to the rest of the team, coaching staff and fans to force Haskins in when he is not ready. Most importantly it is not fair to Haskins to get his ego crushed every weekend. NFL defenses are no joke. There is no Tulane's or Wake Forest's in the NFL. Haskins is not ready to start even against Cleveland. Imagine if we were playing against a top team this past weekend.

You know why? his name is Dan Snyder. The only way Ron got the job is if Haskins got the option to start.

[skinsfaninok]

I don't think Haskins is Patrick Ramsey bad but it may get there

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I don't think Haskins is Patrick Ramsey bad but it may get there

??? Patrick Ramsey was far better than Haskins has been. Hell Shane Mathews and Danny Wuerffel was too for that matter.

[punch it in]

https://sports.yahoo.com/ron-rivera-...163314427.html

[skinsfaninok]

Anytime the head coach comes out and says "There is a cut off point" with his QB, you know the dude just isn't getting better. Same situation in Chicago happened and they were 2-0 at the time... If a QB isn't good in todays pass friendly league that's a bad sign lol

[Monkeydad]

Keep him in all 16 games.

He came in late last season on an already-sunk ship.

This year is not going to be a win-now year and Rivera never approached it this way. If it were, we'd still have Peterson.

Let Haskins learn as much as he can...and that means learn from mistakes. He has all of the physical capabilities to be an NFL QB. His issue is in his head. This can be fixed.

Yesterday he stared down receivers and the defense made him pay for it. He and the coaches know what needs to be fixed.

Another thing that needs to be fixed is the offensive line. The sacks and fumbles aren't all on Dwayne.

We're in a full tear-down and rebuild mode. Don't expect it to be pretty on day 1.

I'm trusting our new coach to being the team back to success, but it can't be done overnight. He needs to see if Haskins is his guy or not. He might be, but we'll never find out by benching him now and destroying his career before it even gets started.

Don't forget, Peyton Manning looked like absolute trash in his rookie year, 56% comp rate with 28 INTs.

I'm not saying Haskins is Manning, but I also don't think he's one we should give up on yet. If he can eliminate his mental mistakes, he has the arm and physical attributes to be a great NFL QB. He and McLaurin could be very special together at the pro level, much like the connection they had in college.

[Summo]

I'm late to the party as usual, but why would they not leave him in the whole season? Where are they going this year?

Rivera said in his post game conference yesterday that he had the same situation with Cam Newton and two years later he was league MVP.

I'm not say Haskins is Cam but give the kid a chance and let him take his lumps.

I think the problem lies with Turner so far. He needs to help him out with easier throws, quicker ones behind that shit O-Line.

[Monkeydad]

Haskins and Cam actually are quite similar with the exception that Can runs more.

Cam was also horrible for a few years, I remember the fans wanting them to cut him pretty early on. Even in his successful years, he wasn't the greatest passer. If you look at his passing stats, he's really only had about 3 decent seasons and 1 good one.

Haskins has a far superior arm than Cam. He just needs to learn how to use it at this level. Once he does, the throws he'll be making will be fun to watch.


And Dwayne probably won't look like a pineapple.

[Summo]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Haskins and Cam actually are quite similar with the exception that Can runs more.

Cam was also horrible for a few years, I remember the fans wanting them to cut him pretty early on. Even in his successful years, he wasn't the greatest passer.

Haskins has a far superior arm than Cam. He just needs to learn how to use it at this level. Once he does, the throws he'll be making will be fun to watch.

EXACTLY! Everyone needs to chill the hell out.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Haskins and Cam actually are quite similar with the exception that Can runs more.

Cam was also horrible for a few years, I remember the fans wanting them to cut him pretty early on. Even in his successful years, he wasn't the greatest passer. If you look at his passing stats, he's really only had about 3 decent seasons and 1 good one.

Haskins has a far superior arm than Cam. He just needs to learn how to use it at this level. Once he does, the throws he'll be making will be fun to watch.


And Dwayne probably won't look like a pineapple.

You think Haskins has a better arm than Cam?? IDK about that

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You think Haskins has a better arm than Cam?? IDK about that

I do.

[MTK]

Sorry but Cam was far better right off the bat, he threw for 4000 yards as a rookie. Dwayne has a long way to go.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by MTK

Sorry but Cam was far better right off the bat, he threw for 4000 yards as a rookie. Dwayne has a long way to go.

And almost as many INTS as TDs.

You're right, he did have a decent rookie year, then had several years of garbage play. He had one of the biggest sophomore slumps. Later on, he even had a season where he completed 52%. That's unacceptable for an NFL QB. He's been a sub-60% passer most years, his value comes in his ability to run. Once that's gone, he's done for good.