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Old 02-28-2018, 11:30 AM   #1
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Ok, this is a hard question for me to answer, I wanted to see what you all think. If the following players are all somehow available at 13 who would you take:

A. Barkley
B. Nelson
C. Ridley
D. Vea
E. R. Smith
F. None of the above

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First of all, Barkley needs to be taken off the list. He just can't fall to #13. That aside, I'd have to go with Nelson. From what I've seen of him, he is one of the top OL to come out of college in many years. I'd rank him second overall behind Barkley but some teams just don't appreciate OG play as much as they should, so it's possible, if unlikely, that he could fall to #13 just as Allen fell to us last year. I think the Skins should start a rumor that Nelson has health issues to make it happen (j/k).

I think Nelson could elevate our OL to elite status. He'd be playing next to an All-Pro OT on one side and, I believe, an up and coming young C who should make great strides this coming season. Even pedestrian RB's should be able to gain decent yardage running behind that OL.
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:39 AM   #2
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The Giants are in a great spot to trade down IMO, yes they could take Barkley but they could load up on picks, look how many teams want a QB.
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Old 02-28-2018, 10:50 AM   #3
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#NFLCombine Key Measurements thread...

21. #LSU RB Derrius Guice
Height: 5-10 4/8
Weight: 224 👀
Hand: 9
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:06 PM   #4
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Here's what Mike Mayock had to say about Vita Vea:

"He is a dancing bear. He's a freak,” Mayock said. “He's 340 pounds, and everybody says he's going to run a sub 5.40. The last defensive lineman to do that was Dontari Poe, and I think he went at No. 11. And Vea is a better player than Poe was coming out of college, more advanced. He's a plug-and-play nose tackle in any scheme. If he runs 4.85 or 4.9 at 342 pounds, to me that's more impressive than watching John Ross run a 4.”
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:56 PM   #5
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Here's what Mike Mayock had to say about Vita Vea:

"He is a dancing bear. He's a freak,” Mayock said. “He's 340 pounds, and everybody says he's going to run a sub 5.40. The last defensive lineman to do that was Dontari Poe, and I think he went at No. 11. And Vea is a better player than Poe was coming out of college, more advanced. He's a plug-and-play nose tackle in any scheme. If he runs 4.85 or 4.9 at 342 pounds, to me that's more impressive than watching John Ross run a 4.”
They said the same about guys like Marcel Darreus, I'd like to have the guy but I'm not saying he's going to be a great player right away. I know u aren't either
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:12 PM   #6
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Drafting Barkley or any RB or WR with our first round pick would be the definition of the expressions putting "the cart before the horse".
Excellent lineman are very expensive in FA and should be a priority in the draft.
It is looking like several teams drafting ahead of us at 13 will be reaching for QB's.
There are a ton of QB needy teams desperate to reach for a QB early in the draft. That benefits us greatly.
“As far as interior offensive line class, the top end of it’s really good," Mayock said in a conference call on Monday.
OG Notre Dame’s Quenton Nelson is a instant starter and star.
OSU center/guard Billy Price is a rock.
Aubrun OG Braden Smith and UTEP OG Will Hernandez are strong.
There is a huge drop off in talent after these guys. We must get one of them.
They will not be there when we pick in the second round.
Getting a second tier guard in the free agency is getting another Shawn Lauvao.
I do not want that.
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Old 02-28-2018, 01:33 PM   #7
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Drafting Barkley or any RB or WR with our first round pick would be the definition of the expressions putting "the cart before the horse".
Excellent lineman are very expensive in FA and should be a priority in the draft.
It is looking like several teams drafting ahead of us at 13 will be reaching for QB's.
There are a ton of QB needy teams desperate to reach for a QB early in the draft. That benefits us greatly.
“As far as interior offensive line class, the top end of it’s really good," Mayock said in a conference call on Monday.
OG Notre Dame’s Quenton Nelson is a instant starter and star.
OSU center/guard Billy Price is a rock.
Aubrun OG Braden Smith and UTEP OG Will Hernandez are strong.
There is a huge drop off in talent after these guys. We must get one of them.
They will not be there when we pick in the second round.
Getting a second tier guard in the free agency is getting another Shawn Lauvao.
I do not want that.
I'm not sure all of them will be gone by our second pick. Guards are undervalued, but I agree in principle, I think NT is very similar in this regard, so I throw Vea and Payne in this same category.

That said, Id take Barkley over Hernandez, Price, or Smith.

Nelson, Barkley, and Vea are elite IMO. You don't turn down elite for excellent even at a hard to find position.


Edit: I've also heard a lot of good things about Isaiah Wynn and Wyatt Teller. I need to watch done of Teller because I've seen him ranked much lower than these guys. Point being, I think you can get a good starting G in rounds 2 and 3 of this draft, but to your point, Nelson is head and shoulders above Teir 2.

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Old 02-28-2018, 05:24 PM   #8
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Doug Williams today said there's enough running backs for everyone in this draft. So they're looking at RB in the draft, but they're probably not looking in round 1

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Doug Williams today said there's enough running backs for everyone in this draft. So they're looking at RB in the draft, but they're probably not looking in round 1

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I bet we take 1 at 13 if it's Guice sitting there
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Doug Williams today said there's enough running backs for everyone in this draft. So they're looking at RB in the draft, but they're probably not looking in round 1

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This is what he was thinking last year and it got us Perine instead of Kamara.
Tired of this front office doing this shit and wasting picks.
Go get a beast at RB. A 3rd or 4th round pick is not going to be the player we need unless they get a guy that fits the system perfectly which isn’t likely.
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This is what he was thinking last year and it got us Perine instead of Kamara.
Tired of this front office doing this shit and wasting picks.
Go get a beast at RB. A 3rd or 4th round pick is not going to be the player we need unless they get a guy that fits the system perfectly which isn’t likely.
Hunt was a 3rd rounder and led the NFL in rushing. Averaged 5 yards a carry. We can get a great back w/ our 3rd round pick. Oh wait....
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Hunt was a 3rd rounder and led the NFL in rushing. Averaged 5 yards a carry. We can get a great back w/ our 3rd round pick. Oh wait....
At least we got Ryan Anderson in the second round!

I feel bad for this years 2nd rd pick. He is doomed.
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Old 03-07-2018, 02:52 AM   #13
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13: R1p13 - dl vita vea - washington
44: R2p12 - g will hernandez - utep
113: R4p13 - rb nick chubb - georgia
149: R5p12 - cb holton hill - texas
188: R6p14 - lb tegray scales - indiana
231: R7p13 - wr daurice fountain - northern iowa
241: R7p23 - s nick washington - florida
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QB Measurables:

Sam Darnold

Height: 6’3
Weight: 221
Hand: 9 3/8

Josh Rosen

Height: 6’4
Weight: 226
Hand: 9 7/8

Baker Mayfield

Height: 6’0
Weight: 215
Hand: 9 1/4

Josh Allen

Height: 6’4 7/8
Weight: 237
Hand: 10 1/8

Lamar Jackson

Height: 6’2
Weight: 216
Hand: 9 1/2


I bet all go round 1
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13: R1p13 - dl da'ron payne - alabama
44: R2p12 - lb rashaan evans - alabama
113: R4p13 - rb rashaad penny - san diego state
149: R5p12 - s jessie bates iii - wake forest
188: R6p14 - g jamarco jones - ohio state
231: R7p13 - cb d.j. reed - kansas state
241: R7p23 - wr davon grayson - east carolina
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