The hypocrisy of the ________

Giantone · 10-10-2018, 04:46 PM

Republican Party.

Make America Great Again by not letting real Americans vote .

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/supr...135608749.html

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The Supreme Court Just Gave Its Latest Gift to Senate Republicans

The Republican Party's relentless ploys to pull the Supreme Court as far right as possible have been paying off for a while now, from partisan gerrymandering to attacking public sector unions. And in one of its first acts for its new session, the Court may have just ensured that Republicans hold the Senate in the midterms.

On Tuesday, the Court declined to hear a challenge to North Dakota's voter I.D. laws by a vote of 6-2 (with Brett Kavanaugh not participating), upholding a lower court decision that will likely prevent thousands of Native Americans from voting in November. North Dakota has a large population of Native Americans and Senator Heidi Heitkamp is considered the most vulnerable Democratic senator up for reelection this year. Per Mother Jones

CRedskinsRule · 10-10-2018, 09:56 PM

Doesnt 6-2 with no Kavanaugh imply a pretty substantial agreement among the justices since 2 pure non conservative justices sided with the majority.

Giantone · 10-11-2018, 03:31 PM

The Republicans are just blatantly trying to steal elections now.......................

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-ge...231158238.html

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Report: Georgia's Secretary of State Is Blocking 53,000 Voter Registrations as He Runs for Governor
Time BEN NADLER / AP,Time 20 hours ago
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Kemp's office blamed a voter registration group founded by his gubernatorial opponent
ATLANTA (AP) — Marsha Appling-Nunez was showing the college students she teaches how to check online if they’re registered to vote when she made a troubling discovery. Despite being an active Georgia voter who had cast ballots in recent elections, she was no longer registered.

“I was kind of shocked,” said Appling-Nunez, who moved from one Atlanta suburb to another in May and believed she had successfully changed her address on the voter rolls.

“I’ve always voted. I try to not miss any elections, including local ones,” Appling-Nunez said.

She tried re-registering, but with about one month left before a November election that will decide a governor’s race and some competitive U.S. House races, Appling-Nunez’s application is one of over 53,000 sitting on hold with Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office. And unlike Appling-Nunez, many people on that list — which is predominantly black, according to an analysis by The Associated Press — may not even know their voter registration has been held up.

Tuesday is Georgia’s deadline to register and be eligible to vote in the November General Election.

Kemp, who’s also the Republican candidate for governor, is in charge of elections and voter registration in Georgia.

His Democratic opponent, former state Rep. Stacey Abrams, and voting rights advocacy groups charge that Kemp is systematically using his office to suppress votes and tilt the election, and that his policies disproportionately affect black and minority voters.

Kemp denies it vehemently.

But through a process that Kemp calls voter roll maintenance and his opponents call voter roll purges, Kemp’s office has cancelled over 1.4 million voter registrations since 2012. Nearly 670,000 registrations were cancelled in 2017 alone.

In a recent television appearance on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show With Trevor Noah” Abrams called Kemp “a remarkable architect of voter suppression.” That’s become a rallying cry for Democrats in the governor’s race, which recent public polling shows in a statistical dead heat.

Giantone · 10-13-2018, 12:56 PM

Trump on healthcare..........

https://www.yahoo.com/news/usa-today...123219120.html

Politics
USA Today Publishes Fact Check Of 'Misleading' Trump Op-Ed
HuffPost Willa Frej,HuffPost Fri, Oct 12 8:32 AM EDT

A fact check of President Donald Trump’s USA Today op-ed determined that many of the assertions he made about “Medicare for All” were misleading.

Trump’s piece, published Wednesday, attacked Democrats for proposing a national “single-payer health-care system,” which, according to Trump, amounts to a socialist plot to destroy Medicare.

Initially, USA Today inserted hyperlinks directing readers to articles whose facts contradicted Trump’s claims. Taking it a step further, the editorial section Thursday published a debunking of the facts by FactCheck.org, a partner of the news outlet.

There were five main problematic points, according to the evaluation. First, the claim that the plan would “cost an astonishing $32.6 trillion during its first 10 years” doesn’t include how it would offset health-care costs for individuals, employers and state governments.

“Yes, there would be an increase in federal government spending, and an increase in taxes to pay for that,” John Holahan, the author of the Urban Institute analysis that Trump got those figures from, told USA Today. But, he said, private spending on health care would be “nearly eliminated.”

Second, the plan would not “take away benefits” from senior citizens; it specifically calls for adding more benefits, including dental, vision and hearing aids. Deductibles would also get eliminated.

Third, it’s reductionist to say that all Democrats are uniting around the act, when other bills are also in the running. Fourth, Trump hasn’t kept his promise “protect coverage for patients with pre-existing conditions” given how hard he has worked to get the Affordable Care Act ― which offers those protections ― repealed. Lastly, not all health insurance premiums are coming down, contrary to his claims.

“When we looked at premiums for the individual market recently, health care experts told us lower growth was expected for 2019 for several reasons: less political uncertainty this year compared with 2017, slower growth in medical expenses, an overpricing of plans last year, and insurers’ growing familiarity with the market,” according to the fact check

Back2RFK · 10-22-2018, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giantone

Trump on healthcare..........

https://www.yahoo.com/news/usa-today...123219120.html

Politics
USA Today Publishes Fact Check Of 'Misleading' Trump Op-Ed
HuffPost Willa Frej,HuffPost Fri, Oct 12 8:32 AM EDT

A fact check of President Donald Trump’s USA Today op-ed determined that many of the assertions he made about “Medicare for All” were misleading.

Trump’s piece, published Wednesday, attacked Democrats for proposing a national “single-payer health-care system,” which, according to Trump, amounts to a socialist plot to destroy Medicare.

Initially, USA Today inserted hyperlinks directing readers to articles whose facts contradicted Trump’s claims. Taking it a step further, the editorial section Thursday published a debunking of the facts by FactCheck.org, a partner of the news outlet.

There were five main problematic points, according to the evaluation. First, the claim that the plan would “cost an astonishing $32.6 trillion during its first 10 years” doesn’t include how it would offset health-care costs for individuals, employers and state governments.

“Yes, there would be an increase in federal government spending, and an increase in taxes to pay for that,” John Holahan, the author of the Urban Institute analysis that Trump got those figures from, told USA Today. But, he said, private spending on health care would be “nearly eliminated.”

Second, the plan would not “take away benefits” from senior citizens; it specifically calls for adding more benefits, including dental, vision and hearing aids. Deductibles would also get eliminated.

Third, it’s reductionist to say that all Democrats are uniting around the act, when other bills are also in the running. Fourth, Trump hasn’t kept his promise “protect coverage for patients with pre-existing conditions” given how hard he has worked to get the Affordable Care Act ― which offers those protections ― repealed. Lastly, not all health insurance premiums are coming down, contrary to his claims.

“When we looked at premiums for the individual market recently, health care experts told us lower growth was expected for 2019 for several reasons: less political uncertainty this year compared with 2017, slower growth in medical expenses, an overpricing of plans last year, and insurers’ growing familiarity with the market,” according to the fact check

So we should believe the left for those numbers? The same group that said Obama care would reduce premiums $2500.

MTK · 10-13-2018, 01:14 PM

lol a socialist plot to destroy a socialist program... brilliant

Chico23231 · 10-22-2018, 02:42 PM

Obamacare is and always has been a failure. My insurance went through the roof, I got lied too. I had HR tell me this was a direct result of Obamacare legislation.

mooby · 10-22-2018, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Obamacare is and always has been a failure. My insurance went through the roof, I got lied too. I had HR tell me this was a direct result of Obamacare legislation.

You got some pay stub evidence of that? My single-payer insurance steadily rose every year since 2008 until the time Obamacare went into effect. It still rose afterwards too but you're lying to yourself if you think an unchecked medical insurance industry isn't going to keep raising costs just because they can.

Chico23231 · 10-22-2018, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooby

You got some pay stub evidence of that? My single-payer insurance steadily rose every year since 2008 until the time Obamacare went into effect. It still rose afterwards too but you're lying to yourself if you think an unchecked medical insurance industry isn't going to keep raising costs just because they can.

And I quote “if you have existing healthcare from your employer”

Back2RFK · 10-26-2018, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooby

You got some pay stub evidence of that? My single-payer insurance steadily rose every year since 2008 until the time Obamacare went into effect. It still rose afterwards too but you're lying to yourself if you think an unchecked medical insurance industry isn't going to keep raising costs just because they can.

I have pay stubs that show my premium went from $750 per month to $1500 when Obama Care kick in. The following year my premium went to $1800 and that's with a $6,000 deductible per person. I refused to pay that and went to a plan that does not conform to Obama care. This is the same story that all small business owners had to deal with. Larger corps were not affected as bad because of how their health insurance is rated but all policies jumped.

Giantone · 10-22-2018, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Obamacare is and always has been a failure. My insurance went through the roof, I got lied too. I had HR tell me this was a direct result of Obamacare legislation.

The sky is falling!!!!! The ACA was an is a good law ,it needs some fixing but my healthcare didn't change a bit ....maybe you need to learn to shop a little better or your company does.

Giantone · 10-30-2018, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Obamacare is and always has been a failure. My insurance went through the roof, I got lied too. I had HR tell me this was a direct result of Obamacare legislation.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...171058706.html

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Watch Trump Republicans own themselves, admit Obamacare works
Yahoo View 16 hours ago

Ari Melber breaks down how Republicans are reversing their positions on Obamacare ahead of the midterm elections, as public approval for Obamacare reaches record levels.

BaltimoreSkins · 10-26-2018, 03:00 PM

How did you have health insurance that did not conform to a federal law? That seems illegal.

Giantone · 10-26-2018, 03:17 PM

According to my paystub my insurance over the last two years went from $423 a month to $455 a month .Deductible stayed the same $2,000 a year per person.

Giantone · 10-26-2018, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

How did you have health insurance that did not conform to a federal law? That seems illegal.

Pretty sure it is.

I am wrong.!

10-10-2018, 04:46 PM	#1
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,645	Re: The hypocrisy of the ________ Republican Party. Make America Great Again by not letting real Americans vote . https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/supr...135608749.html Politics The Supreme Court Just Gave Its Latest Gift to Senate Republicans The Republican Party's relentless ploys to pull the Supreme Court as far right as possible have been paying off for a while now, from partisan gerrymandering to attacking public sector unions. And in one of its first acts for its new session, the Court may have just ensured that Republicans hold the Senate in the midterms. On Tuesday, the Court declined to hear a challenge to North Dakota's voter I.D. laws by a vote of 6-2 (with Brett Kavanaugh not participating), upholding a lower court decision that will likely prevent thousands of Native Americans from voting in November. North Dakota has a large population of Native Americans and Senator Heidi Heitkamp is considered the most vulnerable Democratic senator up for reelection this year. Per Mother Jones __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

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10-11-2018, 03:31 PM	#3
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,645	Re: The hypocrisy of the ________ The Republicans are just blatantly trying to steal elections now....................... https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-ge...231158238.html Politics Report: Georgia's Secretary of State Is Blocking 53,000 Voter Registrations as He Runs for Governor Time BEN NADLER / AP,Time 20 hours ago Reactions Reblog on Tumblr Share Tweet Email Kemp's office blamed a voter registration group founded by his gubernatorial opponent ATLANTA (AP) — Marsha Appling-Nunez was showing the college students she teaches how to check online if they’re registered to vote when she made a troubling discovery. Despite being an active Georgia voter who had cast ballots in recent elections, she was no longer registered. “I was kind of shocked,” said Appling-Nunez, who moved from one Atlanta suburb to another in May and believed she had successfully changed her address on the voter rolls. “I’ve always voted. I try to not miss any elections, including local ones,” Appling-Nunez said. She tried re-registering, but with about one month left before a November election that will decide a governor’s race and some competitive U.S. House races, Appling-Nunez’s application is one of over 53,000 sitting on hold with Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office. And unlike Appling-Nunez, many people on that list — which is predominantly black, according to an analysis by The Associated Press — may not even know their voter registration has been held up. Tuesday is Georgia’s deadline to register and be eligible to vote in the November General Election. Kemp, who’s also the Republican candidate for governor, is in charge of elections and voter registration in Georgia. His Democratic opponent, former state Rep. Stacey Abrams, and voting rights advocacy groups charge that Kemp is systematically using his office to suppress votes and tilt the election, and that his policies disproportionately affect black and minority voters. Kemp denies it vehemently. But through a process that Kemp calls voter roll maintenance and his opponents call voter roll purges, Kemp’s office has cancelled over 1.4 million voter registrations since 2012. Nearly 670,000 registrations were cancelled in 2017 alone. In a recent television appearance on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show With Trevor Noah” Abrams called Kemp “a remarkable architect of voter suppression.” That’s become a rallying cry for Democrats in the governor’s race, which recent public polling shows in a statistical dead heat. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

10-13-2018, 12:56 PM	#4
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,645	Re: The hypocrisy of the ________ Trump on healthcare.......... https://www.yahoo.com/news/usa-today...123219120.html Politics USA Today Publishes Fact Check Of 'Misleading' Trump Op-Ed HuffPost Willa Frej,HuffPost Fri, Oct 12 8:32 AM EDT A fact check of President Donald Trump’s USA Today op-ed determined that many of the assertions he made about “Medicare for All” were misleading. Trump’s piece, published Wednesday, attacked Democrats for proposing a national “single-payer health-care system,” which, according to Trump, amounts to a socialist plot to destroy Medicare. Initially, USA Today inserted hyperlinks directing readers to articles whose facts contradicted Trump’s claims. Taking it a step further, the editorial section Thursday published a debunking of the facts by FactCheck.org, a partner of the news outlet. There were five main problematic points, according to the evaluation. First, the claim that the plan would “cost an astonishing $32.6 trillion during its first 10 years” doesn’t include how it would offset health-care costs for individuals, employers and state governments. “Yes, there would be an increase in federal government spending, and an increase in taxes to pay for that,” John Holahan, the author of the Urban Institute analysis that Trump got those figures from, told USA Today. But, he said, private spending on health care would be “nearly eliminated.” Second, the plan would not “take away benefits” from senior citizens; it specifically calls for adding more benefits, including dental, vision and hearing aids. Deductibles would also get eliminated. Third, it’s reductionist to say that all Democrats are uniting around the act, when other bills are also in the running. Fourth, Trump hasn’t kept his promise “protect coverage for patients with pre-existing conditions” given how hard he has worked to get the Affordable Care Act ― which offers those protections ― repealed. Lastly, not all health insurance premiums are coming down, contrary to his claims. “When we looked at premiums for the individual market recently, health care experts told us lower growth was expected for 2019 for several reasons: less political uncertainty this year compared with 2017, slower growth in medical expenses, an overpricing of plans last year, and insurers’ growing familiarity with the market,” according to the fact check __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

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Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,645	Re: The hypocrisy of the ________ According to my paystub my insurance over the last two years went from $423 a month to $455 a month .Deductible stayed the same $2,000 a year per person. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

The hypocrisy of the ________

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