Better Rookie Season Stats Griffin or Luck?

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Luck or Griffin? A scout's take | National Football Post

Interesting article. It only reminds me of pre draft arguments.

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Andrew Luck versus Robert Griffin III | ProFootballFocus.com

Fantasy: Andrew Luck versus Robert Griffin III

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Andrew Luck versus Robert Griffin III | ProFootballFocus.com

Fantasy: Andrew Luck versus Robert Griffin III

Griffin without a doubt. Double threat...

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I'm expecting Griffin to make a lot of plays off schedule, as Mike Shanahan puts it. He has the ability to find the open receiver. He has the ability to throw the deep ball on target. And he certainly has the ability to outrun the entire opposing defense from end zone to end zone. Griffin could end up being the rookie of the year. I'm predicting that RG3 will put up better statistical numbers as a rookie than Andrew Luck because RG3 has better offensive players around him. Luck on the other hand has all of the above mentioned qualities and abilities that Griffin has expect being able to outrun an entire NFL defense from end zone to end zone.

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

...I'm predicting that RG3 will put up better statistical numbers as a rookie than Andrew Luck because RG3 has better offensive players around him.

A valid point the articles mentions, which has been brought up in this thread is whether which team really does have the best weapons?

WEAPONS

Both teams have a bit of turnover in terms of offense weapons. The Colts return Reggie Wayne and Austin Collie but that’s about all that they return for Luck to throw to. The return of Wayne was a surprise to many but don’t underestimate the effect that a proven commodity at the receiver position can have on a young quarterback. Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison to grow with, Brett Favre had Sterling Sharpe, Aaron Rodgers had Donald Driver, and Tom Brady had Troy Brown just to name a few cases. It also makes the evaluation of said young quarterback easier knowing that the receiver they’re throwing to isn’t a problem. Austin Collie has had flashes, he just needs to hope that the concussion issues are gone for good. Look for the team to utilize second and third round picks Coby Fleener (a tweener tight end who will likely get some time at slot) and Dwayne Allen (a conventional in-line tight end) often. Speedy rookie receiver T.Y. Hilton is a target to keep an eye on and he has the unique ability to make defenders miss.

In Washington, the quantity is certainly there but the quality of weapons is to be seen. Tight end Fred Davis is the leading receiver coming back in 2012, with 59 receptions for 796 yards in just 12 games. Extrapolated to 16 games that is a 78 catch 1061 yard season – not too shabby considering the quarterback play. 33 year old Santana Moss is slated to be back and he will battle with a pair of free agents (Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan) and a sophomore coming off basically a redshirt rookie year (Leonard Hankerson). The offseason plan was clearly to stack up on speedsters to take advantage of the plus deep ball that Robert Griffin III possesses. Even though the opinion around the league is that the team overpayed for Garcon (-3.7 overall rating last season) he is still just 25 years old and with the amount of draft picks spent on RG3, Washington’s options were limited.

EDGE: Indianapolis Colts (Andrew Luck)

If not for the signing of Reggie Wayne, the edge may have gone to the Washington Redskins. But with the retaining of Wayne, every other offensive player has some weight taken from their shoulders. An added bonus for Andrew Luck is that he has variety to throw to – solid hands in Wayne, shifty route runner in Collie, matchup nightmare in Fleener, and a weapon in space Hilton. In other words, if Andrew Luck ends up being who people say he is, pick your poison.

They also give the Colts the edge on the OL.
Gotta say I agree with both assessments.

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Griffin, only because of who he has and who Luck has. If given the same, definitely would go with Luck.

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

Griffin, only because of who he has and who Luck has. If given the same, definitely would go with Luck.

Why do you think Colts have lesser talent?

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Why do you think Colts have lesser talent?

Rebuilding. They have talent, just not as much as we do.

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

Rebuilding. They have talent, just not as much as we do.

Sure they're rebuilding.
But, I just don't see the talent gap on offense, especially in our favor.

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Griffin, this year and beyond. I honestly think this kid will be that good. We could have him for a long time. I know all about Luck, and honestly I believe both players can handle everything that comes with the NFL. The QB position has to be one of the most stressful jobs there is on the planet of taken seriously. IE Micheal Vick early in his career(based on his real lack of effort to get better) Ryan Leaf who was broken by the pressure of being a qb in the league.

The better question is which one will get more rings?

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You have to figure that the Redskins were a quarterback away from having a winning record last season. We don't need to be reminded of the John Beck/Rex Grossman disaster. Luck and Griffin could both have excellent statistical years. People tend to say RG3 will have the better rookie campaign because the Colts are starting over while the Redskins have upgraded greatly on offense.