Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

[12thMan]

Per Bloomberg poll, Americans favor the immigration shift by 2-1. Indie voters by a margin of 66% to 24%.

Also knocked Marco Rubio out of the running for Veep. What a power move.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

You have to give it to the man, he is Slick Willie 2.0....without the womanizing and cigar fetish of course.


Big trump card played by obama today....I'm calling it, pay me!

Big buy of votes at the expense of tax payers and Americans who's jobs they are taking just to send the money to Mexico. Obama will do anything for votes he is a scum sucker.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Big buy of votes at the exspense of tax payers and Americans who's jobs they are taking just to send the money to Mexico. Obama will do anything for votes he is a scum sucker.

Dude, you crack me up sometimes!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Dude, you crack me up sometimes!

Well you know its true.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well you know its true.

I know what's true? That DHS have temporarily halted deporting 800k kids that are in high school, attending college..or by the way, defended our country in the war? That have no criminal record and want to stay her legally without fear of deportation?

Sounds like common sense to me.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Per Bloomberg poll, Americans favor the immigration shift by 2-1. Indie voters by a margin of 66% to 24%.

Also knocked Marco Rubio out of the running for Veep. What a power move.

Clinton-like.


I agree with the Pres on this one, but one day we should address illegal immigration head on. Our government has been epic fail on the issue, whether its Dem or Rep, President or Congress..they have failed us again.

[12thMan]

FYI: The Dream Act passed Congress this year and failed in the Senate by 5 votes. People tend to forget that.

Secondly, a large immigration bill won't pass Congress. Has to be done piece meal. The DREAM Act was a very doable and logical first step in that direction. Obama did the right thing, even though this is a temporary solution.

[12thMan]

I'll add, our government hasn't failed us on immigration. A handful in Congress have though. I suspect we'll see something passed in the next term.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I know what's true? That DHS have temporarily halted deporting 800k kids that are in high school, attending college..or by the way, defended our country in the war? That have no criminal record and want to stay her legally without fear of deportation?

Sounds like common sense to me.

Well if it was common sense why did it take him 3 yrs to do this? You really think we are deporting people serving the country? Also if they were legal they would not have a fear of deportation.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Big buy of votes at the expense of tax payers and Americans who's jobs they are taking just to send the money to Mexico. Obama will do anything for votes he is a scum sucker.

What Obama did is the right thing to do policy wise and politically. What he did was beyond genius because most people support it and it pits the GOP against Latinos voters.

We know where Obama stands...where does Romney stand? We don't know because he wants to play both-sides, Latinos and your run of the mill conservative voter, and it will ultimately doom him.


The dance-off has clear winners and losers, and let me tell you it ain't Obama or the American public...and once Romney is thrashed you can add yourself to the loser count column.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well if it was common sense why did it take him 3 yrs to do this? You really think we are deporting people serving the country? Also if they were legal they would not have a fear of deportation.

Of course not, the best path to citizenship in this country is to see your nearest military recruiting outpost. Sadly most Americans are so stupid that they don't know this and Obama is merely adding "serving the country" quip to seal the deal.

How many points is Romney behind on the Latino votes again?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well if it was common sense why did it take him 3 yrs to do this? You really think we are deporting people serving the country? Also if they were legal they would not have a fear of deportation.

First, that's kind of the point. We need to legalize those that want to stay. This doesn't address the millions and millions illegal immigrants, primarily those that were brought here by their parents. Ages 18-30.

Again this isn't the same as DREAM Act and he didn't legalize immigration. He didn't grant immunity, there's no path to citizenship, and doesn't grant legal status to anyone. So what's your problem with it?

Once again, any form of comprehensive immigration has to go through Congress. Obama's been pushing DREAM for a couple of years now and it failed in the Senate by 5 votes. The Republican party largely opposed it.

Yes, we have members of our Armed Forces, right now, that fear being deported after being discharged. Why not grant them work permits now until we sort this out? If you defend this country, you shouldn't have to fear being deported.

Seems like you're against it just to be against it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'll add, our government hasn't failed us on immigration. A handful in Congress have though. I suspect we'll see something passed in the next term.

well i guess we will fail until then? Our government has failed, we have accumalated a ton of people here illegally.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

well i guess we will fail until then? Our government has failed, we have accumalated a ton of people here illegally.

And we've deported a ton too -- millions. Border crossings are at there lowest in something like 30 years. We're getting there, still a big problem though.

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