2024 Early Bird Draft Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by davy

I think you missed his point there, punch.
What he means is if you trade back to 7 what's to stop someone below that trading up to 3-6 to pinch your QB?

Gotcha. Confused me how he put it. It could happen- would be like 4-5 teams that could trade back at that point. But I am assuming when we decide to trade back that we are talking to those teams. Look there are a million scenarios, all i know is it is nice to have respected people running the show and one of those scenarios is us moving back a few spots and still getting one of those 3 quarterbacks.

If Peters thinks it could leave us at 6 or 7 and the big 3 quarterbacks are gone than I agree… don’t do it. I want one of those quarterbacks. I would love to have it unfold where we still get one and gain picks. Obviously we all would.

[That Guy]

unless you gamble and lose. The only real reason someone would be trading up is for a QB. Unless Penix is tops on their board or something, you don't want to get fancy and end up shooting yourself in the foot.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by That Guy

unless you gamble and lose. The only real reason someone would be trading up is for a QB. Unless Penix is tops on their board or something, you don't want to get fancy and end up shooting yourself in the foot.

Not suggesting gambling. Just utter due diligence and a well vetted maneuver that allows us to pick up Daniels somewhere between 3/4-6/7.

Pipe dream? Sort of, but one that is doable. I wouldn’t trade past 6/7. I think we could get Daniels there. You would have to have a solid handle on what the other 5-6 teams want and whether they would trade out allowing some other team to move way up. That team would have to be willing to overpay heavily for Daniels. Worst case scenario we get some heavy duty compensation for 2, and start building one hell of a roster. Might have to wait another year for a quarterback but if it means a stud TE, OT, and G this time around I wouldn’t be that upset.

[jamf]

Hate it Punch.
You’ve been watching that Kevin Costner draft movie haven’t you?
Waiting gets you a worst draft position and forces the team to accept the 4th or 5th best QB next year or you gotta trade up giving away all that draft capital you got in trading down plus more.
Just two more wins next year and the team is drafting out of the top 10.

These jackasses couldn’t get a top tier HC. I doubt they are going to pull off any big time draft trades.

[Darrell Green Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Not suggesting gambling. Just utter due diligence and a well vetted maneuver that allows us to pick up Daniels somewhere between 3/4-6/7.

Pipe dream? Sort of, but one that is doable. I wouldn’t trade past 6/7. I think we could get Daniels there. You would have to have a solid handle on what the other 5-6 teams want and whether they would trade out allowing some other team to move way up. That team would have to be willing to overpay heavily for Daniels. Worst case scenario we get some heavy duty compensation for 2, and start building one hell of a roster. Might have to wait another year for a quarterback but if it means a stud TE, OT, and G this time around I wouldn’t be that upset.

You need to leave your pipe dream ideas at the door because it won't happen. First off there is no way to know what the other teams will do. Teams lie all the time and will never tell a competitor what they will do. And even if they did they are making no promises to Washington that they won't take a good offer for pick # 6 and to another team who will jump ahead of the Commanders.

[punch it in]

See you all on draft day, when we trade out of 2, acquire extra picks, and still land Daniels.

[Darrell Green Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

See you all on draft day, when we trade out of 2, acquire extra picks, and still land Daniels.

Wanna bet? Not only do I think they prefer Maye I don't see a trade back for the reasons already posted

[sdskinsfan2001]

If we get Chip Kelly we're picking Daniels. They go together like PB&J.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Darrell Green Fan

Wanna bet? Not only do I think they prefer Maye I don't see a trade back for the reasons already posted

[sdskinsfan2001]

31. J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
34. Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
38. Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
49. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
54. Chris Braswell EDGE Alabama
63. Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
67. Christian Haynes OG UConn
68. Ty'Ron Hopper LB Missouri
80. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
82. James Williams S Miami (FL)
100. Josh Newton CB TCU
106. Roger Rosengarten OT Washington
118. Sataoa Laumea OT Utah
134. Jared Wiley TE TCU
150. Javion Cohen OG Miami (FL)
193. Will Putnam OC Clemson
2025 NE 2nd
2025 CIN 2nd
2025 KC 2nd
2025 NE 3rd

[KI Skins Fan]

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Check out this article. What do we do if Caleb refuses to go to Chicago?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by jamf

Hate it Punch.
You’ve been watching that Kevin Costner draft movie haven’t you?
Waiting gets you a worst draft position and forces the team to accept the 4th or 5th best QB next year or you gotta trade up giving away all that draft capital you got in trading down plus more.
Just two more wins next year and the team is drafting out of the top 10.

These jackasses couldn’t get a top tier HC. I doubt they are going to pull off any big time draft trades.

So out of all the HCs hired, you don't think Dan was in the top tier?

Jim Harbaugh
Dan Quinn
Raheem Morris
Dave Canales
Mike Macdonald
Antonio Pierce
Jerod Mayo
Brian Callahan



I kinda wanted Macdonald (what do I know), but he's probably the only one I would have wanted over Quinn on that list. Harbaugh is intriguing but was probably never an option because he'd want too much control.

It's hard for me to say they didn't get one of the best candidates out there, and possibly the best.

Quinn and Peters have been in plenty of NFL draft rooms. I'm pretty sure they know what they are doing.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

https://thespun.com/nfl/colin-cowher...-chicago-bears

Check out this article. What do we do if Caleb refuses to go to Chicago?

Call him a little bitch, go tell him to paint his nails, then draft Daniels/Maye.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Call him a little bitch, go tell him to paint his nails, then draft Daniels/Maye.

That's one possibility.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

So out of all the HCs hired, you don't think Dan was in the top tier?

No. Simple reasoning is he was plan B at best for every coaching vacancy available.

I'm warming up to him as HC if he can get an offensive guru.
End of the day, I was hoping for the next McVay/McDaniel brainiac type guy.

That rah rah bullshit only gets you so far. the game is too complex now.
A coach like Marty Schottenheimer couldn't coach in today's game without elite coordinators.
Dan Campbell was smart by surrounding himself with former NFL players and a spacing guru with McDonald. Unfortunately he made a rah rah meathead decision that probably ended their season.

I like Quinn with Chip Kelly.
I don't like Quinn with Kubiacs son.