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Old 12-07-2020, 08:46 AM   #1
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So nice of Rudy to be in the giving spirit, spreading that sweet Rona all around like it's already Christmas

Arizona legislature shuts down after Giuliani tests positive for coronavirus
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:31 AM   #2
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So nice of Rudy to be in the giving spirit, spreading that sweet Rona all around like it's already Christmas

Arizona legislature shuts down after Giuliani tests positive for coronavirus
Can Rona be spread by farts? cause if so Rudy been crop dusting covid laced farts publically which is foul on so many levels
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:48 AM   #3
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Can Rona be spread by farts? cause if so Rudy been crop dusting covid laced farts publically which is foul on so many levels
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Can Rona be spread by farts? cause if so Rudy been crop dusting covid laced farts publically which is foul on so many levels
This is a legit question that I would like an answer to
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Old 12-07-2020, 11:31 AM   #5
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This is a legit question that I would like an answer to
If you actually want to put the effort to go down this rabbit hole... This is actually discussed here. :-)

https://youtu.be/yJPauidZfRw?t=2958
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Old 12-07-2020, 01:44 PM   #6
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If you actually want to put the effort to go down this rabbit hole... This is actually discussed here. :-)

https://youtu.be/yJPauidZfRw?t=2958
I listened long enough to get the gist, thanks. Odds are low, but not impossible. Could Guliani's pants be the only protection between a room full of lawmakers getting COVID through a Guliani fart? It's a theory.
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:50 AM   #7
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By all accounts the UK is rushing through without vetting the research. Pfizer is not just an AMERICAN MADE vaccine but also a joint effort with Germany. I do wish FDA would move faster like the European model but this is what you get with the small government, lack of oversight approach we embrace in the U.S. Other developed country democracies have figured out how to govern their citizens effectively maybe one day we will too.
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:53 AM   #8
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By all accounts the UK is rushing through without vetting the research. Pfizer is not just an AMERICAN MADE vaccine but also a joint effort with Germany. I do wish FDA would move faster like the European model but this is what you get with the small government, lack of oversight approach we embrace in the U.S. Other developed country democracies have figured out how to govern their citizens effectively maybe one day we will too.
Yeah, i do agree with everything you said. But i'm not holding my breath that the FDA approves either of these shots this month. Hell we may not even get a vaccine at all. At the current case load around 250K cases a day, you have to figure at least that many people are getting sick every day and not getting officially diagnosed. So in all actuality the USA is probably seeing a true number of 400 - 500K a day. At that speed, we are doing over 12 million cases a month. At that level of spread, the USA will reach heard immunity in around a year. So, one way or the other, the pandemic is winding down because we will probably see the daily infection rate drop within 6 months as we get closer and closer to building herd immunity.
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Old 12-07-2020, 10:13 AM   #9
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Why would we not get a vaccine at all? C'mon brah that makes zero sense
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Why would we not get a vaccine at all? C'mon brah that makes zero sense
My apologies, i don't mean to imply we won't get one ever, i just mean that the FDA may not approve Pfizer or Moderna. So we may not get an approved vaccine until sometime mid - late 2021 as more companies file for FDA approval.

I'm not sure how the FDA deals with public pressure, but i imagine at some point they are going to face heavy criticism especially if most of the world begins rolling out vaccines and we don't. I really think vaccines are the only way out of this.
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My apologies, i don't mean to imply we won't get one ever, i just mean that the FDA may not approve Pfizer or Moderna. So we may not get an approved vaccine until sometime mid - late 2021 as more companies file for FDA approval.

I'm not sure how the FDA deals with public pressure, but i imagine at some point they are going to face heavy criticism especially if most of the world begins rolling out vaccines and we don't. I really think vaccines are the only way out of this.
IMO, Pfizer will be approved by the end of the week. Moderna will be the week after. Two weeks TOPS. Vaccines will be distributed to at risk population within the next 2-3 weeks.

I do not agree with the logic that a country approving something before us implies they are doing a better job. There is no grand conspiracy here. There are necessary rigors to ensure vaccine efficacy and safety that are in place for a reason (see RSV Vaccine in the 60's).

Especially given the disinformation climate we live in, it's imperitive that the job is done correctly. I would be curious what concrete evidence exists out there that anything else is going on. Dunning-Kruger at it's finest.
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Old 12-07-2020, 11:12 AM   #12
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IMO, Pfizer will be approved by the end of the week. Moderna will be the week after. Two weeks TOPS. Vaccines will be distributed to at risk population within the next 2-3 weeks.

I do not agree with the logic that a country approving something before us implies they are doing a better job. There is no grand conspiracy here. There are necessary rigors to ensure vaccine efficacy and safety that are in place for a reason (see RSV Vaccine in the 60's).

Especially given the disinformation climate we live in, it's imperitive that the job is done correctly. I would be curious what concrete evidence exists out there that anything else is going on. Dunning-Kruger at it's finest.
This. Sad to say it might take a little longer for a vaccine to get approved because they absolutely have to make sure everything is in proper order now that conspiracy theories are increasingly legitimized.
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:09 PM   #13
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Why would we not get a vaccine at all? C'mon brah that makes zero sense
I knew, without even looking at previous posts, who brah referred to.
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Old 12-07-2020, 10:28 AM   #14
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Likely that answers are coming this week

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Old 12-08-2020, 12:06 PM   #15
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Maybe it was that Rudy Rona fart

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