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View Poll Results: Should the Redskins pay or trade Trent Williams? | |||
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34 | 46.58% |
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39 | 53.42% |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
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Also we have not heard one peep from Trent himself on Social media or any quotes from the media. He has not said anything about "Not playing for the redskins" . Unless I missed it. That gives me some hope.
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Exactly. If you were really going to war over principle, that's where you'd take it. He'll be back, I'm as certain of it as I am of anything.
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The fact that the skins have not made any changes to, and continue to support, the medical staff lends to the belief that they did their jobs exactly like they were supposed to. Which means there are only two possibilities which i consider realistic: 1) This is really ALL about money, in which case I applaud Allen for not caving. Trent will either show up and get paid or he wont. Either way, Allen is smart for not setting a precedent where players can hold out, leak false stories to the media that make the team look bad, and then get rewarded for it. 2) The medical issue is really of primary concern to Trent, but he's unreasonable in his criticism. In which case I still applaud Allen for remaining loyal to his staff. Regardless, the team - and Allen specifically - has showed tremendous loyalty to Trent over the years. Its a shame Trent is choosing not to reciprocate that loyalty, but at the end of the day, this is a business and all sides are going to act in ways which they believe are for their own best interests.
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If he sits for 2 years, isn't he still obligated to the Redskins for 2 years? I thought if he sits out the 2 years, he's pretty much retiring unless he comes back to the Redskins. Do I have that wrong? |
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But once the two years are up, he's a free agent, regardless of whether he played or sat. The franchise tag is the element in this that really takes all of Trent's leverage away. While Trent may appear to have some strength in threatening to withhold his services, he'd have to sacrifice $21M to do so, and STILL may not reach free agency because the Redskins could just tag him. Then he'd have to sit out his age 34 season, too. And by that point you might as well be retired. His realization will come any day now. He will realize he either plays with the Redskins for the few years he has left in his career, or he will have to effectively retire. Bruce is right, I don't see Trent retiring. And that's the crux of it. When you hold the ultimate hammer in the franchise tag, even principled stances can't hold up.
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
That all said, I don't have great confidence that he's maintaining a good relationship with Trent. So I worry what will happen when Trent reaches free agency. He may walk.
But if there ever was a player the franchise tag was meant for, it's probably Trent.
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
This is where my issue is. I believe that TW started this to make a point as a team leader, that he was ok missing reps that for him were fairly meaningless, and he would have been back. BUT I believe (no proof) that BA went to TW in early August, after JG's press conference at the start of training camp, and said that the Skins could and would fine him regular season game checks for missing preseason games(allowable under the current cba), and THAT is when the conversation turned sour. There was a clear point that AP and Morgan Moses came out and drew the line, I believe that's when TW said f you to BA.
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Loud enough to give up $21M and risk still getting franchised?
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
At 50million earned, assuming he didn't fritter it away, which is a big assumption, I think he will walk away. Luck just did. This isn't the NFL where star players make 12M over a career. He has been hurt the last few years, played through serious issues, IF he feels like he isn't being respected (note not fairly, not decently, but respected and that is where BA loses the guys because he does things that are clearly disrespectful) then TW is not going to come back
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Luck said he had reached the point where the joy of playing the game is gone. Trent has given no such indication that his passion for playing football is gone. Would you spend the last 3-4 good years of your career sitting out, if it was still a passion for you?
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Hopefully I am wrong, because the best sight to see against the Eagles would be Trent at LT |
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
This is the Bruce Allen who completely mismanaged The Kirk cousins issue AND who is considered the least prepared and least TRUSTWORTHY GM in the NFL. I don’t see this ending well for the Redskins.
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
Please stop bringing up the Kirk Cousins bullshit, Minnesota paid him 80 mil and he barely got a winning record, with the same 2017 team that went to the playoffs, last year.
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I didn’t say Bruce Allen screwed up the Kirk Cousins situation because we should have kept him. I didn’t think Cousins was the franchise QB for the future, AND SO DID Bruce Allen! Once the team decided that he wasn’t that QB of the future and didn’t want to give him the money he wanted IT WAS TIME TO MOVE ON. Giving him franchise money for two more years made the team look indecisive and without a long-term plan. Having a press conference where Bruce Allen calls his QB by HIS WRONG NAME looks amateurish and unprepared. So the team blew a lot of money on a QB who didn’t want to be here AND we didn’t want!! It didn’t help our record over those two years and the team didn’t use the time to develop a new QB for the future. I’m not even going to discuss the Alex Smith situation. Here’s where we stand with TW. He has told numerous friends, who told the press: he doesn’t want to play with this team EVER AGAIN. Did something happen this summer between BA and TW? I don’t know but he has told everyone the same thing: I’m NEVER wearing the Redskin uniform again. Ppl here say we have great leverage with TW? How? The longer we keep him the less we will get. Teams like the Pats have moved forward to fill their LT hole. If he sits out the season, he will have FAR LESS value then right now. He’s made $100 million so far in his career, does losing $21 mill from the Redskins this season suddenly make him desperate? NO! It makes him more pissed than he already is. It’s time for BA to wake up, grow up and get the best trade that he can NOW. BA is losing this game of chicken and the team needs that first round draft pick (in a trade for TW) next year for the OL. For once BA needs to make the right decision and trade TW now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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