Media Bias

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Chico man. Your hatred towards the left and your obliviousness towards the right is amazing. Especially when everything you hate about the left is EXACTLY what the right does on a minute to minute basis. I suggest you go outside, take a cold shower, come back inside, and take a fresh look at what is actually happening in this country.

This isn't about right or left...Ive been critical of the bias coverage of Fox News which I think their slant is dishonest. Just as I would of MSNBC.

But one thing I have accepted is Fox and MSNBC will continue to serve their bubble. Fine. What I don't think is fine is how biased presentation/information has now seeped into mainstream media organizations where center should be what we expect. Lay out the facts and let the viewer decide. Opinion Editorials are fine as back page filler, labeled properly, etc. but what we see is editorials presented a factual news...which it is not. It starts there and goes all the way up to Fake News. This isn't only the nightly news, this is news shows and morning news shows. If your gonna talk issues, present facts...if your gonna talk about the issues, then coverage should be fair.

If you look at Fox news and can identify issues you have problems with...whether is language choice, editorial opinions past as factual news, not presenting all relative facts, limited context, not presenting all sides arguments, misleading stats, negative slant, etc....which Im sure you could easily do. By taking the same scope...do it for MSNBC coverage...it might be tougher for you, but I sure you could.

We live in an age of information overload...I think its important to be able to discern what we see and hear. Now when it comes to politicians...bullshit reigns right?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If you look at Fox news and can identify issues you have problems with...whether is language choice, editorial opinions past as factual news, not presenting all relative facts, limited context, not presenting all sides arguments, misleading stats, negative slant, etc....which Im sure you could easily do. By taking the same scope...do it for MSNBC coverage...it might be tougher for you, but I sure you could.

We live in an age of information overload...I think its important to be able to discern what we see and hear .

Chico you can and people do do it. You just don't give people credit for it. Your bias shows in your statment you say you can see it at FOX but MSNBC might be tougher,BS,MSNBC is more balanced in my opinion but that is the point people will watch what they want to watch? Chico none of this is new,MSM has been like this since corporations made their news departments show a profit, now they must play to their audience and their sponsors FOX chose a side as does CNN. Here is an idea............stop watching them .

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Chico you can and people do do it. You just don't give people credit for it. Your bias shows in your statment you say you can see it at FOX but MSNBC might be tougher,BS,MSNBC is more balanced in my opinion but that is the point people will watch what they want to watch? Chico none of this is new,MSM has been like this since corporations made their news departments show a profit, now they must play to their audience and their sponsors FOX chose a side as does CNN. Here is an idea............stop watching them .

I was talking to Punch directly...meaning if he leans left it may be harder to spot on MSNBC if your unwilling to be objective. I gotta spell it out for G1.

Why are you so mad?

This is an example of the garbage fake news rhetoric about the Jazmine Barnes:

Look at this racist trash accusing the police to be white supremacists:

https://www.theroot.com/could-police...nes-1831459355

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I was talking to Punch directly...meaning if he leans left it may be harder to spot on MSNBC if your unwilling to be objective. I gotta spell it out for G1.

Why are you so mad?

This is an example of the garbage fake news rhetoric about the Jazmine Barnes:

Look at this racist trash accusing the police to be white supremacists:

https://www.theroot.com/could-police...nes-1831459355

Chico ,please don't try the grade school spin on me. Your the one who seems to have anger issues and your postings back me up .

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I was talking to Punch directly...meaning if he leans left it may be harder to spot on MSNBC if your unwilling to be objective. I gotta spell it out for G1.

Why are you so mad?

This is an example of the garbage fake news rhetoric about the Jazmine Barnes:

Look at this racist trash accusing the police to be white supremacists:

https://www.theroot.com/could-police...nes-1831459355

You are correct, Chico. That article is garbage. It's one thing to say racists have infiltrated police forces, which according to the FBI is a real thing, it's another thing to say police forces are inherently racist.

The difference is I ignore it, you point it out, which drives clicks. What is your point? Every base has extremism, from (imo) Fox News, Breitbart, to (in your opinion) The Root, to extremist Christians, Muslims, etc. there will always be a small minority of people that live their life in that extremist way.

Does it suck these extremists have a voice? Yes, in much of the same way Breitbart has a voice and is allowed to pollute people's minds with their garbage.

But you ain't gonna solve it by trying to point it out to us. How many of us do you think read The Root?

[mooby]

Speaking of agendas let's look at this Business Insider article that MSN picked up and stuck on their page:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxe...x2f?li=BBnb7Kz

The first paragraph (which analysts say is the 2nd most read part of the article after the headline, which most people read without even clicking the article nowadays:

Originally Posted by Business Insider

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has touted a plan that would tax multimillionaire Americans 60-70% to fund massive energy and infrastructure overhauls related to a plan that aims to reduce the country's carbon emissions to zero and eliminate fossil fuels in 10 years.

This sentence conveniently leaves out the fact that her plan is based on a marginal tax rate, which means anything under 10 million wouldn't be taxed at 70% and only profits above 10 million would hit that tax rate. So if you make more than 10 million in a given year that first 10 million isn't taxed at 70 percent. Anything above it is. That's a major difference then people believing if you made 10 million it would be taxed at 70%.

Now granted, the 2nd paragraph focuses on that detail, but in an age where readers barely skim headlines I believe that makes a big impact.

Hell, if you read the whole article you will see if she did that it wouldn't even be the first time in American history that would be done. Eisenhower had it at 90% in the 50's, JFK/LBJ at 70% through the 70's, and Reagan dropped it to 50% in the early 80's before it bottomed out near its' current rate of 39.6% in 1986. Imagine a world where corporations might be allowed to move all of their profits offshore to horde wealth, but the owners of those companies couldn't.

I can't wait to hear why you think the gov't should leave their hands out of these innocent multi-millionaire's pockets Chico. Because the current system is soooooo effective.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Speaking of agendas let's look at this Business Insider article that MSN picked up and stuck on their page:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxe...x2f?li=BBnb7Kz

The first paragraph (which analysts say is the 2nd most read part of the article after the headline, which most people read without even clicking the article nowadays:



This sentence conveniently leaves out the fact that her plan is based on a marginal tax rate, which means anything under 10 million wouldn't be taxed at 70% and only profits above 10 million would hit that tax rate. So if you make more than 10 million in a given year that first 10 million isn't taxed at 70 percent. Anything above it is. That's a major difference then people believing if you made 10 million it would be taxed at 70%.

Now granted, the 2nd paragraph focuses on that detail, but in an age where readers barely skim headlines I believe that makes a big impact.

Hell, if you read the whole article you will see if she did that it wouldn't even be the first time in American history that would be done. Eisenhower had it at 90% in the 50's, JFK/LBJ at 70% through the 70's, and Reagan dropped it to 50% in the early 80's before it bottomed out near its' current rate of 39.6% in 1986. Imagine a world where corporations might be allowed to move all of their profits offshore to horde wealth, but the owners of those companies couldn't.

I can't wait to hear why you think the gov't should leave their hands out of these innocent multi-millionaire's pockets Chico. Because the current system is soooooo effective.

It’s socialism and a garbage ass plan. I hope to god you don’t honestly believe this is viable and numbers work out? Jesus Christ

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I was talking to Punch directly...meaning if he leans left it may be harder to spot on MSNBC if your unwilling to be objective. I gotta spell it out for G1.



Why are you so mad?



This is an example of the garbage fake news rhetoric about the Jazmine Barnes:



Look at this racist trash accusing the police to be white supremacists:



https://www.theroot.com/could-police...nes-1831459355

I am quite capable of deciphering the truth for myself. Imo Fox is such fake news it is criminal. Literally criminal. They should be indicted for aiding and abetting. They spin such racist rhetoric it is mind numbing.
MSNBC is obviously not the gospel by any means but they are much more honest than Fox. I can show you countless examples of them berating Obama for things and championing Trump for the exact same things. They ignore absolutely everything that isn’t part of their agenda, and than harp on one isolated incident to push their agenda. MSNBC is not nearly as one sided, and 90% of the people that say they are do it because the Orange guy calls them fake news. It is the same tactic Nixon used, or Hitler for that matter once they realized their dirty little secrets were bubbling to the surface. Trump knows the truth is going to come out eventually- hell it has been coming out for months and months - unless of course it is just coincidence that everyone he has surrounded himself with the last several years has these weird connections to Mother Russia. Imo CNN and MSNBC are simply calling it like they see it - and history will prove them to be right. Very soon. Fox is literally working for the Whitehouse. Terrorists pouring in over the southern border. Drugs in the “caravan”. Lol. Pull troops out of Syria and let Russia and Iran have their way - and send troops to keep the brown people... i mean the rapist terrorist drug dealers out. LMAO. Racist trash. And MSNBC and CNN constantly bash Obama for pulling out of Iraq too early. Meanwhile Fox has no issues with Syria - just when Obama pulled out of Iraq. You are right forget about right vs left. It is truth vs lies. At the end of the day someone actually does have to be telling the truth - though along the way it just feels like two different spins. History will show who was lying. It already is if you pay attention and connect the dots.

[sdskinsfan2001]

SEC media bias getting served a bowl of dicks tonight. Big ones.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I am quite capable of deciphering the truth for myself. Imo Fox is such fake news it is criminal. Literally criminal. They should be indicted for aiding and abetting. They spin such racist rhetoric it is mind numbing.
MSNBC is obviously not the gospel by any means but they are much more honest than Fox. I can show you countless examples of them berating Obama for things and championing Trump for the exact same things. They ignore absolutely everything that isn’t part of their agenda, and than harp on one isolated incident to push their agenda. MSNBC is not nearly as one sided, and 90% of the people that say they are do it because the Orange guy calls them fake news. It is the same tactic Nixon used, or Hitler for that matter once they realized their dirty little secrets were bubbling to the surface. Trump knows the truth is going to come out eventually- hell it has been coming out for months and months - unless of course it is just coincidence that everyone he has surrounded himself with the last several years has these weird connections to Mother Russia. Imo CNN and MSNBC are simply calling it like they see it - and history will prove them to be right. Very soon. Fox is literally working for the Whitehouse. Terrorists pouring in over the southern border. Drugs in the “caravan”. Lol. Pull troops out of Syria and let Russia and Iran have their way - and send troops to keep the brown people... i mean the rapist terrorist drug dealers out. LMAO. Racist trash. And MSNBC and CNN constantly bash Obama for pulling out of Iraq too early. Meanwhile Fox has no issues with Syria - just when Obama pulled out of Iraq. You are right forget about right vs left. It is truth vs lies. At the end of the day someone actually does have to be telling the truth - though along the way it just feels like two different spins. History will show who was lying. It already is if you pay attention and connect the dots.

Ive seen multiple instances of Fox news disagreeing with Trump. Actually during the run for President, his most famous spat was with Megan Kelly...You remember that?

If you think Fox news should be arrested...then clearly you are a fascist and have no use for the Constitution. So thanks again for your opinion.



Also, in reading the AOC New Green Socialist Deal I'm getting excited about the Unicorn farms! Should be fun!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Ive seen multiple instances of Fox news disagreeing with Trump. Actually during the run for President, his most famous spat was with Megan Kelly...You remember that?



If you think Fox news should be arrested...then clearly you are a fascist and have no use for the Constitution. So thanks again for your opinion.







Also, in reading the AOC New Green Socialist Deal I'm getting excited about the Unicorn farms! Should be fun!

And Megan Kelly quickly departed from Fox after that spat. Im sure she saw the writing on the wall.
I was obviously being sarcastic about Fox news being arrested they have the right to spew racist hatred and lies that contribute HEAVILY to the divisiveness of our country. They have the right to mislead numb nuts and play the role of national security adviser all they want.

[punch it in]

Again you do not have to agree with the stance of either Fox or MSNBC, but Fox is spewing hate, rhetoric, and fear mongering. That is not only wrong but dangerous. MSNBC is not doing this.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Again you do not have to agree with the stance of either Fox or MSNBC, but Fox is spewing hate, rhetoric, and fear mongering. That is not only wrong but dangerous. MSNBC is not doing this.

.........after tonight's address to the nation it should be fun to watch all the "fact checking" going on with trumps lies. Surprise he just isn't tweeting it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Again you do not have to agree with the stance of either Fox or MSNBC, but Fox is spewing hate, rhetoric, and fear mongering. That is not only wrong but dangerous. MSNBC is not doing this.

Fox isn’t doing anything msnbc or cnn has done daily.fear mongering and rhetoric...man it’s clear it’s on both sides. Your not being objective.

And there is plenty of evidence that in the past year many fox talking heads disagreeing with president trumps position. Just google it.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

.........after tonight's address to the nation it should be fun to watch all the "fact checking" going on with trumps lies. Surprise he just isn't tweeting it.

Honestly G-1 there is no such thing as fact checking anymore. Trumpers just spin “fact checking “ into “media bias”, “fake news”, “alternative facts”. Call it whatever you want. Lol.