When is Enough ,Enough?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Right , not the president/dictator who is single handedly bringing fascism to the United States. I find funny your complaint about the "old USSR" considering who elected trump.I thought the trumplings love putin.

Dude your hyperbole is level 10 the last couple thread pages. U can tell Trump had a good week based on G1 rants.



http://thehill.com/homenews/media/39...ll-do-anything

Looks like some good ole in-fighting right before the midterms. The unhinged look is never a good one and will be properly used for messaging against the Dems.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Dude your hyperbole is level 10 the last couple thread pages. U can tell Trump had a good week based on G1 rants.



http://thehill.com/homenews/media/39...ll-do-anything

Looks like some good ole in-fighting right before the midterms. The unhinged look is never a good one and will be properly used for messaging against the Dems.

Sad thing is chico you haven't a clue of what you're talking about and it's sad.To you it's a game ....lets see how we can piss off the Liberals.Strike one ...I am a republican and it kills me that trump is president and it makes you happy,see I know from personnel knowledge of trumps lying and his misdealing you are to young to think anything else but it's media lies becuase trump said so ,you're a lamb being lead to slaughter.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...ode-democracy/



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8b0e7942f79f



https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...ealdonaldtrump

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Right , not the president/dictator who is single handedly bringing fascism to the United States. I find funny your complaint about the "old USSR" considering who elected trump.I thought the trumplings love putin.

Can you define fascism?

Calling for the rule of law, and abiding by laws enacted by a democratically elected legislature is not fascism.

The old USSR was a strict socialist economic system. That is what I spoke of collapsing, yet you use the left's already tired refrain of Russia Russia Russia (said in Jan Brady's voice). The liberal trumpeting of russian interference is irony at it's best because it was Hillary's failed reset and general incompetence at foreign diplomacy that led Putin to loathe her. There has been conclusion after conclusion by Pres Obama, the intel agency's, etc that while Russia made extraordinary efforts to affect the outcome, in the end they did not. Simply put, basically half this country's electorate hated Hillary as much as the other half hated Trump.

But ultimately, Trump's election will put at least 2 textualists on the SC, and bring a better form of abiding by constitutional law to our country. If that makes you mad, so be it.

[MTK]

Democrats should have went nuclear over the last SC seat being blocked. I’m sure they thought HC was a lock so they didn’t have to worry too much. The dems deserve this. Just hope RBG can keep holding on.

[CRedskinsRule]

Here is a definition of fascism:

fascism
The only official definition of Fascism comes from Benito Mussolini, the founder of fascism, in which he outlines three principles of a fascist philosophy.
1."Everything in the state". The Government is supreme and the country is all-encompasing, and all within it must conform to the ruling body, often a dictator.
2."Nothing outside the state". The country must grow and the implied goal of any fascist nation is to rule the world, and have every human submit to the government.
3."Nothing against the state". Any type of questioning the government is not to be tolerated. If you do not see things our way, you are wrong. If you do not agree with the government, you cannot be allowed to live and taint the minds of the rest of the good citizens.
The use of militarism was implied only as a means to accomplish one of the three above principles, mainly to keep the people and rest of the world in line. Fascist countries are known for their harmony and lack of internal strife. There are no conflicting parties or elections in fascist countries.

If you want to use that term it far more closely aligns with the Democratic party of today. Look at the lockstep of the Democratic party, you can not disagree with it. We must move to , without being ostracized. In the last election cycle the Republicans brought more then 10 competing individuals through the primary. In comparison, HRC attempted with the complicit help of the DNC to subvert the voting process and keep Bernie from having a shot.
It wasn't Trump supporters that rioted to shut down a speaker at that bastion of free speech UCal Berkley - https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/mi...ley/index.html

But feel free to keep on demonizing and using false rationalizations.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Democrats should have went nuclear over the last SC seat being blocked. I’m sure they thought HC was a lock so they didn’t have to worry too much. The dems deserve this. Just hope RBG can keep holding on.

For what it's worth, I think that the Republicans should have let Garland's nomination come to a vote, and honestly even seated him. That said, the Dem's had played their own political games and barring some major shakeout, that's just how the nominations game goes now.

I think RBG should step down for her health.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Democrats should have went nuclear over the last SC seat being blocked. I’m sure they thought HC was a lock so they didn’t have to worry too much. The dems deserve this. Just hope RBG can keep holding on.

I'm a fan of RBG....she is as tough as they come.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Can you define fascism?

Calling for the rule of law, and abiding by laws enacted by a democratically elected legislature is not fascism.

The old USSR was a strict socialist economic system. That is what I spoke of collapsing, yet you use the left's already tired refrain of Russia Russia Russia (said in Jan Brady's voice). The liberal trumpeting of russian interference is irony at it's best because it was Hillary's failed reset and general incompetence at foreign diplomacy that led Putin to loathe her. There has been conclusion after conclusion by Pres Obama, the intel agency's, etc that while Russia made extraordinary efforts to affect the outcome, in the end they did not. Simply put, basically half this country's electorate hated Hillary as much as the other half hated Trump.

But ultimately, Trump's election will put at least 2 textualists on the SC, and bring a better form of abiding by constitutional law to our country. If that makes you mad, so be it.

Anyone who is anti- “dude”....fascist

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Ok. I have read that article several times and still cannot make the conspiracy connection that you two seem to see.

If i understand right Kennedy's son would be in a huge position to damage Trump due to his work at DB on Trump's dealings. And clearly if Kennedy's son had knowledge of damaging evidence I think it is reasonable to think he would let his father know not to Trust Trump. If Kennedy was told by his son not to trust Trump, I doubt Kennedy would resign, instead staying on the bench adjudicate any Mueller rulings. I guess maybe you could see him stepping down so he would not have to recuse himself thus opening Mueller rulings subject to a potential 4-4 tie. But retiring and allowing Trump to select his successor seems like a draconian way to avoid that outcome.

G1, progressives and socialists are the ones leading this country down a fate like the old USSR and every other economy that has taken up socialism as their banner.

I have struggled with the connection myself that's why I tried not to claim it as fact. Chico has already come to the conclusion that since some media is reporting on it, it must not be true. But the gist seems to be something about Russian money laundering through the Deutsche Bank (I believe that is something Deutsche has already been found guilty on) combined with the fact that the Deutsche Bank was the only bank willing to lend to Trump. So there's some smoke there but not sure if it's connected or not. Either way I expect nothing to come of it even if there is something there (again not sure if there is or not). I think the SC angle is Trump wants his man in there in case the Mueller investigation comes down to the SC or not. If it's 5-4 Repubs and the 5th guy who replaced Kennedy is a die-hard Trump supporter he doesn't have anything to worry about.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Here is a definition of fascism:


If you want to use that term it far more closely aligns with the Democratic party of today. Look at the lockstep of the Democratic party, you can not disagree with it. We must move to , without being ostracized. In the last election cycle the Republicans brought more then 10 competing individuals through the primary. In comparison, HRC attempted with the complicit help of the DNC to subvert the voting process and keep Bernie from having a shot.
It wasn't Trump supporters that rioted to shut down a speaker at that bastion of free speech UCal Berkley - https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/mi...ley/index.html

But feel free to keep on demonizing and using false rationalizations.

Here current definition:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Fascism:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Synonyms: Nazism, Rightism, White-Nationalism

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by jamf

Here current definition:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Fascism:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Synonyms: Nazism, Rightism, White-Nationalism

Skipping the inherent bias the pictures impart, the single bolded fact is far more definitive of the modern Democratic party then the Republican party which wants to divest power down to the states, and believes that the rights of all individuals come not from the State, but are inalienable to all humans.

It's false to link it solely to right wing radicals, as the antifada is the circular end of the extremist spectrum.

It's also false to put the mainstream of people who voted for Trump into the extremist camp, as it is to put the mainstream of people who voted for HRC.

I don't deny there are extremists on both ends that are looking for their power. I do deny that Trump is in that camp. (But I understand the feeling, I truly felt Pres Obama was going to find a way to invalidate the 22nd Amendment, and was this country's Julius Caesar)

[CRedskinsRule]

Just curious where your synonyms came from. The Webster's link didn't have them.
Here is the list from Fascism Synonyms, Fascism Antonyms | Thesaurus.com


Nazism
absolutism
authoritarianism
autocracy
bureaucracy
despotism
racism
regimentation
totalitarianism
one-party system
party government

no where does it focus on Right wing, and again, I argue the lockstep democratic party that wants all control entrusted to the federal government(except when republican party policies are implemented) is far more filled with bureaucracy and regimented politically correct thinking and doing.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Just curious where your synonyms came from. The Webster's link didn't have them.
Here is the list from Fascism Synonyms, Fascism Antonyms | Thesaurus.com


Nazism
absolutism
authoritarianism
autocracy
bureaucracy
despotism
racism
regimentation
totalitarianism
one-party system
party government
.

You just described the trump administration to a T

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by jamf

Here current definition:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Fascism:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Synonyms: Nazism, Rightism, White-Nationalism

nailed it! This is the trump administration and it's minions to a T

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You just described the trump administration to a T

It really doesn't.