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Old 03-27-2017, 12:48 PM   #751
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Everything out this guy's mouth is just not believable at this point. Sorry, he's lost most of his credibility.

Clearly this is just part of the Dan Snyder/Bruce Allen shit show.
If the shit show results in winning seasons (as it has for the past two seasons), I'm all for it. I don't know what else you'd want him to say.
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:02 PM   #752
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If the shit show results in winning seasons (as it has for the past two seasons), I'm all for it. I don't know what else you'd want him to say.
I was going say the same thing. The article was a whole lot of nothing.
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Old 03-28-2017, 07:13 AM   #753
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If the shit show results in winning seasons (as it has for the past two seasons), I'm all for it. I don't know what else you'd want him to say.
I third this. with the addition of: if the skins keep winning it wont be a shit show any longer, it will be touted as the tough decisions that turned the program around.
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Old 03-28-2017, 08:09 AM   #754
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True Dire stakes i think this year. If we have another winning season in spite of everything that has happened, some will praise Bruce / Dan.

However if we collapse and win 4 or 5 games, then EVERYONE will blame Bruce and Dan. I don't like either of them, in fact my dislike for Snyder may border on hatred, but i can honestly say those two guys are sort of in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation....
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Old 03-28-2017, 11:29 AM   #755
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Everything out this guy's mouth is just not believable at this point. Sorry, he's lost most of his credibility.

Clearly this is just part of the Dan Snyder/Bruce Allen shit show.
I agree with this. Our list of potential GM hires is limited and small because the BEST candidates do not want to work here. Probably because our GM role has no power in this current set up. There is no long line of top GM canidates lined up at our door begging to be interviewed.
We had a small list of lower level candidates for our defensive coordinator open position this summer when the top candidates that were unemployed and looking for work did not want to work here.
We finally have a top young, healthy NFL QB that we cannot sign to a long term deal.
This is a real reflection of where Snyder and Allen have this team currently.
It is all on them now. Having all the power also brings all of the accountability.

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Old 03-28-2017, 11:38 AM   #756
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I agree with this. Our list of potential GM hires is limited and small because the BEST candidates do not want to work here. Probably because our GM role has no power in this current set up. There is no long line of top GM canidates lined up at our door begging to be interviewed.
We had a small list of lower level candidates for our defensive coordinator open position this summer when the top candidates that were unemployed and looking for work did not want to work here.
We finally have top young, healthy NFL QB that we cannot sign to a long term deal.
This is a real reflection of where Snyder and Allen have this team currently.
There is a long list of folks who have said "no thanks" do to the instability within the building.

Also heard news this morning that Skins are anticipating a lawsuit from McC, so expect another Snyder dumpster fire to be burning brightly in the media.
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Old 03-28-2017, 11:45 AM   #757
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I agree with this. Our list of potential GM hires is limited and small because the BEST candidates do not want to work here. Probably because our GM role has no power in this current set up. There is no long line of top GM canidates lined up at our door begging to be interviewed.
We had a small list of lower level candidates for our defensive coordinator open position this summer when the top candidates that were unemployed and looking for work did not want to work here.
We finally have top young, healthy NFL QB that we cannot sign to a long term deal.
This is a real reflection of where Snyder and Allen have this team currently.
You're not going to have any GM candidates right now because this is a terrible time to be hiring any FO personnel.

The DC search was difficult because our defense was terrible and didn't have a lot of talent. Also, it was difficult to attract candidates with our coach having a year left on his contract.

Finally, please see Denver's negotiations with Von Miller before you complain about the team not being able to sign Cousins.

I'm pretty sure NFL teams have different structures, where the GM doesn't always have all the "power" and still people still go and work for those teams. Whether you like it or not, this is the situation with our team.

Again, aside from the McCloughan situation, please tell me what is so horrible about the team? I'm not saying our team is perfect, but I can name you situations from other teams that are equally as bad, if not worst, but they are not drama-worthy like what happened with our team.
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:16 PM   #758
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Ruhskins... they have totally mismanaged the Cousins deal to the point where it's laughable. They're complete failure to wrap him up last year at 19 million was pure stupidity. And I feel partly that this is because Cousins turned out to be better than Griffin and there are egos involved. Add that in with issues with Scot and they look shaky in the FO to say the least.

In the end none of it really matters if they start out 6-2 and Cousins is signed. No one will care and all will be forgotten. But those are to big if's.
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Old 03-30-2017, 07:52 PM   #759
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Scot McCloughan 'felt the hate' from Bruce Allen before firing
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Old 03-30-2017, 08:09 PM   #760
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Are you guys seeing the report that the skins are offering Cousins a huge deal???? I'm trying to get link..its all over Facebook..Albert breer twitter page is all i know.
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Old 03-30-2017, 09:29 PM   #761
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Are you guys seeing the report that the skins are offering Cousins a huge deal???? I'm trying to get link..its all over Facebook..Albert breer twitter page is all i know.
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Old 03-30-2017, 09:40 PM   #762
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Re: Trouble in Redskins Park?

I know it's not good to jump to conclusions, but a player who goes way back with McCloughan just put this out there. Put his name on it. That carries weight. Love this team, but fuck this team. No hope as long as Bruce Allen/Snyder by extension are around.
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Old 03-30-2017, 10:57 PM   #763
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He also said he doesn't have a drinking problem and that is what 90% of alchoholics say.. It sucks because I wanted Scot to be there
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Old 03-30-2017, 11:13 PM   #764
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I know it's not good to jump to conclusions, but a player who goes way back with McCloughan just put this out there. Put his name on it. That carries weight. Love this team, but fuck this team. No hope as long as Bruce Allen/Snyder by extension are around.
Mike rob knows his shit...a little bias, but still. He put his name on it since day one
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Old 03-31-2017, 06:57 PM   #765
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Are you guys seeing the report that the skins are offering Cousins a huge deal???? I'm trying to get link..its all over Facebook..Albert breer twitter page is all i know.
I am told that the original deal has not changed, which could have paid Cousins close to 20 million a season if certain incentives were met. Riggins said on his page that in every day people world, that's a shit ton of money, in NFL Starting QB world it is insulting. The baseline deal without incentives was around 18 million.

Add also Jay Gruden heaping praise on Sudfeld and commenting that they think he can be "the guy", and I think the book is already closed on Cousins this year, he plays out the year as a lame duck QB and then next year goes and makes superstar money. He can't be sad because he will have made more than 70 million in three seasons...
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