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07-17-2018, 05:20 PM | #1 |
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
Context is crucial. But with Trump is definitely different because it’s so out of line with a strategy. Trump actions are detrimental bc we have the facts and he still acted like a bitch...at the same time throwing his own agencies under the bus for either a. selfish incompetence or b. The Russians have his balls in their hands.
There is certainly a difference between the 2 presidencies, neither effective with the Russian policy. Trump missed a yuge opportunity to say enough is enough...he shrunk |
07-17-2018, 05:04 PM | #2 |
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Here comes the pivot
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07-17-2018, 05:14 PM | #3 |
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If the claim is that he is under Putins thunb, and that press conference sure as hell looked like that, what policies would you see changed from what is in place. We are certainly more aggressively anti Russia in Ukraine where we are arming Ukraine with weapons that they didnt have before. In Syria we are far more aggressive against Assad's chemical weapons regardless of Russian advisors, we have increased sanctions in general. We have reinstated iranian sanctions.
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It’s simple, his talk should match his actions. Because it doesn’t red flags are raised. |
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I do agree though, in the sense that most of the issues are because he always has to speak and add in his one line troll jab. Its his way of trying to control the narrative, and it fails a lot. |
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07-17-2018, 05:46 PM | #6 |
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Really!! They both denounce trump but now try to explain away his treacherous behavior . Next we will hear it was " trump misspoke " or "locker room talk" or "alternative facts".
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.............and Chico is "spinning".......again.
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07-17-2018, 05:38 PM | #9 |
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G1 you are going to LOOOOVVEEEE me posting this one!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/17/opini...ley/index.html he references a cult, it's CNN (well daily telegraph reposted), he gives Trump credit for being tough on Russia, he points to all sorts of historical references, and I agree with nearly everything he says. (don't like the cult reference lol) |
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I wanted to hit some highlights from that article, because it is so on target for me.
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07-17-2018, 06:25 PM | #12 |
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Would you kindly answer one of these 2 questions then:
1) What policy or policies has Trump enacted that has presented a softer/weaker stance then Pres. Obama? or 2) What policy or policies should Trump have enacted that are tougher than our current policy? |
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What do you call it when a sitting President of the United States of America openly backs the leader of an enemy foreign goverment over his own Security and Defense agency's ? Again the cult tries to spin with out admission of their presidents wrong doing. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...anctions-syria https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1FI2V7 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2c6c92487f11
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07-19-2018, 06:48 AM | #15 | |
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And the last paragraph gave me a good laugh. There's so many things I could harp on Republicans for, but this makes a good point. The one bone I have to pick is he's not just being nice to Russia, he's hanging out with one of our enemies several days after we brought indictments against 12 people who were acting under his command. The timing couldn't be worse. And it's his continued refusal to say Russia means us no harm after we brought charges alleging they meant to cause us harm (and are probably still doing so to this day). Also if you want to switch gears we can discuss the role Maria Butina played/facilitated in Russian money laundering via the NRA. Hard to see the gov't bringing charges if they didn't have evidence to back up their case. Also serious question for you: Do you think the NRA has the moral fortitude to not take donations/work with any country willing to help the cause? Even if that country was our enemy and was still doing everything possible to undermine our position? |
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