The Sam Howell Thread

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Sam will be here next year. He has proven he can play and has a ton of value here and will continue to grow. The book on Howell, regardless who is here in the front office and staff, is not closed.

Look around the league, both Arizona and the Giants made recent huge financial commitments to QB and now have their replacement being mocked to them.

What about Justin Fields already being moved on from next year in the draft?

Sam performance has been a major plus this year.

The Cards, Giants, and Bears are three teams who are likely to move on from QBs that were not drafted by the team's current regime.

No one is saying that Sam will be cut by the new regime. I just don't think a new GM is going to come in and say that we are set at QB because of Sam Howell.

[VTSkins1961]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The Cards, Giants, and Bears are three teams who are likely to move on from QBs that were not drafted by the team's current regime.

No one is saying that Sam will be cut by the new regime. I just don't think a new GM is going to come in and say that we are set at QB because of Sam Howell.

agreed

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The Cards, Giants, and Bears are three teams who are likely to move on from QBs that were not drafted by the team's current regime.

No one is saying that Sam will be cut by the new regime. I just don't think a new GM is going to come in and say that we are set at QB because of Sam Howell.

I agree with this and obviously you need to do your due diligence everywhere. However we are in a unique position. We seemingly have a decent starter at quarterback who is playing on the cheap. We also have alot of holes to fill. It isn’t that I am worried about Sam getting tossed to the curb because he isn’t the new regimes pick that bothers me. It is using a first round pick on a quarterback who may or may not be better than the one we got, when clearly there will be Oline, corners, linebackers that are certainly better than what we got.

Listen if there was a quarterback coming out who I thought was an absolute can’t miss Id have to reevaluate my thought process here. But there isn’t. What is comes down to is do you want Sam Howell, and a stud LT or Sam Howell and another rookie quarterback with Jay Leno protecting whoever wins the job?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I agree with this and obviously you need to do your due diligence everywhere. However we are in a unique position. We seemingly have a decent starter at quarterback who is playing on the cheap. We also have alot of holes to fill. It isn’t that I am worried about Sam getting tossed to the curb because he isn’t the new regimes pick that bothers me. It is using a first round pick on a quarterback who may or may not be better than the one we got, when clearly there will be Oline, corners, linebackers that are certainly better than what we got.

Listen if there was a quarterback coming out who I thought was an absolute can’t miss Id have to reevaluate my thought process here. But there isn’t. What is comes down to is do you want Sam Howell, and a stud LT or Sam Howell and another rookie quarterback with Jay Leno protecting whoever wins the job?

My assumption in bringing in a new coaching staff and GM is that they will be better at evaluating talent than the current regime. If this is the case, which we better hope it is, then the other holes that this team has can be filled with later round picks and free agency.

I just don't understand why fans insist that the new GM/coach needs to roll with the QB that this current regime picked and dismiss the idea that the new regime is going to want to pick their own QB.

Howell is a nice guy, and so far a decent starter with a lot of flaws. But do people really think that the coaching staff is going to be like, yeah this is the guy we're going to roll with?

Now, is there the chance that a new regime could roll with Howell, yeah probably. I just see it very difficult to happen. Especially with a team that has a history of new coaches being forced to work with a previous regime's QB (Ron with Haskins, Jay with RG3); and let's face it, Ron and company have made pretty terrible personnel moves, and it is likely a new GM and coach are not going to want to bet their jobs on a "decent QB."

[skinsfaninok]

If we can get Caleb Williams I’m down but other than that I’m a fan of SH and think we need to get him help before dumping him


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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we can get Caleb Williams I’m down but other than that I’m a fan of SH and think we need to get him help before dumping him


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PLEASE NO. Great college player. But if you look at some of the better defenses he's gone up against, he's been overwhelmed. Played poorly. Plays too much off script. It's fine in the Pac 10, won't work in the NFL. Against Notre Dame he was just flat out awful. Plus he cried in mommies arms and paints his nails. Just too many warning signs. I don't think he is mentally tough enough for the NFL.

[rocnrik]

Caleb Williams is highly regarded as the top QB in upcoming draft … his team USC lost 5 games this year .. hmmmm…
So how will he fare on a NFL team that most likely will suck ( worst teams get the higher picks..duh) …
My point to Jamf is simply EVEN the top ranked sure fire number one pick can’t really do but so much without a team around them …

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Caleb Williams is highly regarded as the top QB in upcoming draft … his team USC lost 5 games this year .. hmmmm…
So how will he fare on a NFL team that most likely will suck ( worst teams get the higher picks..duh) …
My point to Jamf is simply EVEN the top ranked sure fire number one pick can’t really do but so much without a team around them …

I don’t want to draft a quarterback, and think Caleb is overrated BUT of those 5 losses probably 4 are squarely on their defense. When you are putting up 30,40,50 points and losing the offense has pretty much done whatever it can.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Caleb Williams is highly regarded as the top QB in upcoming draft … his team USC lost 5 games this year .. hmmmm…
So how will he fare on a NFL team that most likely will suck ( worst teams get the higher picks..duh) …
My point to Jamf is simply EVEN the top ranked sure fire number one pick can’t really do but so much without a team around them …

CJ Stroud would like a word with you.
https://youtu.be/5tJvzf-WOOA?si=ppkaqyxLx2IuVeH5
This is what a franchise QB looks like.

When are we going to see games like this from Sam Hamster?
McLaurin put up 1100yards per season with some shitty QBs. He’s trending towards 950 this years! According to you guys, terry got worse but we got the guy at QB.
Hamster has the arm talent but Heiniki was a much better QB.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by jamf

CJ Stroud would like a word with you.
https://youtu.be/5tJvzf-WOOA?si=ppkaqyxLx2IuVeH5
This is what a franchise QB looks like.

When are we going to see games like this from Sam Hamster?
McLaurin put up 1100yards per season with some shitty QBs. He’s trending towards 950 this years! According to you guys, terry got worse but we got the guy at QB.
Hamster has the arm talent but Heiniki was a much better QB.

You're out of your mind,I guess that's why Atlanta is going back to Ridder because Heiney is so good Howell spreads the wealth to a bunch of different receivers

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by jamf

CJ Stroud would like a word with you.
https://youtu.be/5tJvzf-WOOA?si=ppkaqyxLx2IuVeH5
This is what a franchise QB looks like.

When are we going to see games like this from Sam Hamster?
McLaurin put up 1100yards per season with some shitty QBs. He’s trending towards 950 this years! According to you guys, terry got worse but we got the guy at QB.
Hamster has the arm talent but Heiniki was a much better QB.

Sam has thrown everyone of those passes in games all year.. to be honest some of Sams passes were more impressive.. now that we know you are in love with Stroud .. just remember if he struggles you are gonna here about it.. oh wait he had 3 int last Sunday 😳😳..

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Sam has thrown everyone of those passes in games all year.. to be honest some of Sams passes were more impressive.. now that we know you are in love with Stroud .. just remember if he struggles you are gonna here about it.. oh wait he had 3 int last Sunday 😳😳..

he had 3 int yesterday (CJ)

[rocnrik]

Caleb Williams is highly regarded as the top QB in upcoming draft … his team USC lost 5 games this year .. hmmmm…
So how will he fare on a NFL team that most likely will suck ( worst teams get the higher picks..duh) …
My point to Jamf is simply EVEN the top ranked sure fire number one pick can’t really do but so much without a team around them …

[sdskinsfan2001]

If there was a 2023 Player Hater's Ball, Jamf would win the award in a landslide. His hate of Howell is diabolical.

Jamf heading down to the Sam Howell Haters Club meeting:

[sdskinsfan2001]

My favorite thing about Howell is how accountable he is. Guys will love playing with him if he's closer to his good games than his bad ones.

'Sam Howell blames himself for loss to the Giants'

https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/...to-the-giants/