Washington Free Agents Signings

[Chico23231]

Gonna say it, kinda shocked not that we got Kinlaw, but the price we paid. Certainly didn’t hear him as DT who would be that sought out, at that price, 30 million in guarantees?

DJ Reed, a much better player at his position, got 32 million in guarantees….??? I much rather have paid him than a rotational piece

For 30 million guaranteed, you better come in here and play well immediately

[Meks]

DJ Reed got stolen!

[calia]

Originally Posted by Meks

DJ Reed got stolen!

He did. I groaned when I saw that.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[WCommandersfan99]

Michael Gallup to visit:

https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/ne...ton-commanders

I could see him contributing but count me in the group that wanted to keep Dyami Brown. He is a good deep threat which played well for JD.

[htownskinfan]

I absolutely hate the Tunsil deal.Living in Houston and being a Texans fan also I was so tired of seeing this guy kill drives with his false start penalties, couldnÂ’t wait for him to be gone, And then we trade for him!!? Wtf, Let me repeat, I absolutely freaking hate this deal, he is an absolute drive killer

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I absolutely hate the Tunsil deal.Living in Houston and being a Texans fan also I was so tired of seeing this guy kill drives with his false start penalties, couldnÂ’t wait for him to be gone, And then we trade for him!!? Wtf, Let me repeat, I absolutely freaking hate this deal, he is an absolute drive killer

From ESPN Plus (Scored a B-)

The Commanders are not messing around with quarterback Jayden Daniels' rookie contract window. Apparently not satisfied with Brandon Coleman as their left tackle, the Commanders swung for one of the league's most established tackles in Tunsil.

Tunsil is coming off a season with a 93% pass block win rate (10th best) and a 75% run block win rate (39th). He also led the entire NFL in penalties regardless of position with 19. When doing research for my 100-player MVP story, I got more positive feedback from folks in the league on Tunsil than those numbers would suggest, and I ranked him as the 72nd most valuable player in 2024. Tunsil is consistent, with a 92% or 93% pass block win rate in each of the last three seasons over 48 regular-season games.

The appeal for the Commanders is obvious, as Tunsil makes their offensive line better. By our numbers, Coleman was very solid for a third-round rookie, with above average pass and run block win rates. Tunsil should raise the floor, though.

Does he raise it enough? Maybe? But I'm not totally convinced because this is a significant package going back to Houston. According to our draft pick calculations, a mid-second-round pick and a mid-third-round pick are worth approximately the same as one mid-first-round pick when added together. This is worth a shade less than that because the 2025 third-round selection is late in the round but still, this is serious trade compensation.

Picks can seem abstract, but they represent surplus value that teams have to be careful not to squander. On the flip side, there's an argument teams flush with cap space like Washington must make trades like this in order to get their money invested in good players.

The other piece of good news for Washington is that Tunsil's contract is a value for the Commanders if they leave it alone. He is currently slated to cost them $21.35 million over each of the next two years. That's only a shade more per year than what Dan Moore Jr. just got from the Titans -- and Tunsil is better than Moore. If the Commanders sign Tunsil to a new deal, I would drop their grade, as the value of what they received would be reduced. Tunsil will turn 31 before the season starts, but tackles do tend to last much longer than other positions.

As for Houston, this is a tough pill to swallow because Tunsil was the strength of an otherwise weak offensive line. The interior of the offensive line struggled to protect C.J. Stroud and the running game lacked consistency. So, the timing of this is odd.

However, this is solid return for Tunsil. If one took the numbers I mentioned above, without the qualitative adjustment, getting a second- and third-round pick for him would be pretty good.


But those premium picks have significant surplus value. And I think it's possible that that surplus value exceeds the value of Tunsil's contract. The timing is rough considering the state of the offensive line and the fact that Houston is also in a rookie quarterback window. But I don't hate it.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by mredskins

From ESPN Plus (Scored a B-)

The Commanders are not messing around with quarterback Jayden Daniels' rookie contract window. Apparently not satisfied with Brandon Coleman as their left tackle, the Commanders swung for one of the league's most established tackles in Tunsil.

Tunsil is coming off a season with a 93% pass block win rate (10th best) and a 75% run block win rate (39th). He also led the entire NFL in penalties regardless of position with 19. When doing research for my 100-player MVP story, I got more positive feedback from folks in the league on Tunsil than those numbers would suggest, and I ranked him as the 72nd most valuable player in 2024. Tunsil is consistent, with a 92% or 93% pass block win rate in each of the last three seasons over 48 regular-season games.

The appeal for the Commanders is obvious, as Tunsil makes their offensive line better. By our numbers, Coleman was very solid for a third-round rookie, with above average pass and run block win rates. Tunsil should raise the floor, though.

Does he raise it enough? Maybe? But I'm not totally convinced because this is a significant package going back to Houston. According to our draft pick calculations, a mid-second-round pick and a mid-third-round pick are worth approximately the same as one mid-first-round pick when added together. This is worth a shade less than that because the 2025 third-round selection is late in the round but still, this is serious trade compensation.

Picks can seem abstract, but they represent surplus value that teams have to be careful not to squander. On the flip side, there's an argument teams flush with cap space like Washington must make trades like this in order to get their money invested in good players.

The other piece of good news for Washington is that Tunsil's contract is a value for the Commanders if they leave it alone. He is currently slated to cost them $21.35 million over each of the next two years. That's only a shade more per year than what Dan Moore Jr. just got from the Titans -- and Tunsil is better than Moore. If the Commanders sign Tunsil to a new deal, I would drop their grade, as the value of what they received would be reduced. Tunsil will turn 31 before the season starts, but tackles do tend to last much longer than other positions.

As for Houston, this is a tough pill to swallow because Tunsil was the strength of an otherwise weak offensive line. The interior of the offensive line struggled to protect C.J. Stroud and the running game lacked consistency. So, the timing of this is odd.

However, this is solid return for Tunsil. If one took the numbers I mentioned above, without the qualitative adjustment, getting a second- and third-round pick for him would be pretty good.


But those premium picks have significant surplus value. And I think it's possible that that surplus value exceeds the value of Tunsil's contract. The timing is rough considering the state of the offensive line and the fact that Houston is also in a rookie quarterback window. But I don't hate it.

Yeah yeah yeah that all sounds good till we sign him to a big contract, and why would Houston be willing to let such a great player go on an offensive line that couldn’t protect the quarterback?

[mredskins]

at least we didn't pay chase young $51M

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Yeah yeah yeah that all sounds good till we sign him to a big contract, and why would Houston be willing to let such a great player go on an offensive line that couldn’t protect the quarterback?

dude i literally highlighted your point from the article; did you even read it

[MTK]

For some perspective read through last year’s free agency thread, some real gems in there

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mredskins

at least we didn't pay chase young $51M

That was the worst signing in FA.. WTF is N.O Doing???

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

For some perspective read through last year’s free agency thread, some real gems in there

you should pin it


we are all arm chair GMs this time of year

[mredskins]

Allen got paid

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...deal-per-agent

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

That was the worst signing in FA.. WTF is N.O Doing???

The Saints need an intervention. Their affinity for shopping is out of control, and it is saddling poor New Orleans fans year after year after year with a team that might win nine games but has next to no shot at winning the Super Bowl. And every time the Saints make another ill-advised signing -- at this point, they are pretty much all ill-advised -- they kick the mediocrity-at-best can down the road once again.

As of this writing, before Young's deal hits the books, the Saints are $11 million over the 2025 cap -- and only $48 million under the 2026 cap. And that was before this deal, which presumably will be light in 2025 (and therefore more expensive in 2026 and beyond).

It doesn't really matter what you think of Young. I think he's not bad! He isn't even 26 yet! Once it became clear he was never going to be the player he was promised to be when he was the No. 2 pick in the 2020 draft, he settled into a role that will be useful for seasons to come. He isn't a star but can rush the passer a little, and that's worth something.

But again, it doesn't matter in this situation. Since the Saints constantly push themselves so close to the limit of what they can spend, they end up facing brutal choices like they had this offseason: Do they spend millions more on someone such as quarterback Derek Carr to make it easier for them to be cap compliant now (but harder later)?

This transaction is another example of that. As my colleague Katherine Terrell points out, the Saints would have had $9 million in dead cap had Young's contract voided on Wednesday. Instead, they will kick that can down the road too. Time and again, the Saints fail to take the obvious team-building action: Tear it down, trade away their veterans, stop spending. Then regroup, with assets, to make a real run at it. The Saints ought to have an ability to think beyond the season directly in front of them. And yet, they're here again.

Which brings us back to Young. As compared to the rest of the league, $17 million is not an expensive deal for an edge rusher of Young's caliber (and that's the only thing saving this grade from being an F). But when compared to Monday's edge rusher transactions, it's a bit expensive. Josh Sweat agreed to a contract of only $19 million per year, while Khalil Mack's deal netted $18 million and Haason Reddick's deal was for $14 million. But perhaps the edge market corrects next year and the Saints can flip Young's contract for a profit.

But there should be no lauding what the Saints did here, because they are doing what they always do -- spending future money when they shouldn't.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by mredskins

dude i literally highlighted your point from the article; did you even read it

Lol yes but I thought you was trying to make a counterpoint with all the other good shit they said about them,my mistake