Skins v Eagles post game thread

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Our defense didnt have anything to look at regarding the Eagles team. Once they did in the second half we allowed 5 first downs. The Eagles won't be a surprise much the second half:

The Eagles have had four years to watch our team's offense.

I saw that we had a problem not calling the proper protections in the second half. Using Griff as just a pocket passer is a waste of his talents. He started to be able to feel the rush in the second half and use his game to make off scheduled plays. This team doesn't scare me.

We still have the opportunity to be very good.

They don't have Oregon tape at Redskins park? Funny, because I have Oregon tape and all I have is the internet.

Fix the problems from this game by Week 2, and no one remembers this game. But you have to make those adjustments, quickly. Trailing by 18 at half to a bad football team at home is not typical of a good football team.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm definitely looking forward to round 2 with the Eagles. I'm not convinced that offense is sustainable over the long haul.

I would agree, but I think McCoy is the PERFECT back for that offense, so much open field and space, and he is dang near impossible to get down 1 on 1.

It will slow down though if Vick gets hit, which he will.

Wish McCoy was in a different division.

[CultBrennan59]

GB has Clay Matthews. He makes all tackles look bad (yes even Trent is one). I think we need to run Morris a lot as well as change it up with Helu. If I'm Kyle and Mike I'm making Robert and Pierre/Josh/Santana work on that play-action post route which we missed and dropped a few times tonight. That was our bread and butter play last year. We're going to need that to get going into this season. Also I would use more of Reed AND Davis on the field at once.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Yea, except I don't trust the Redskins defense to perform well enough to slow down the Packers. They did score 28 points against the 49ers, and obviously the 49ers have a defense that is on another level when compared to the Skins. But you never know. I just do not trust the safeties enough to think Rodgers won't expose them.

Well, if you get torched by a talent lacking, run heavy Eagles team and then a talent loaded, pass heavy Packers team in back to back weeks, you don't have a good defense. Or even an average one.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

They don't have Oregon tape at Redskins park? Funny, because I have Oregon tape and all I have is the internet.

That wasn't the same offense he ran at Oregon. The tempo was similar but at Oregon there was more on an emphasize on the triple option and getting your playmakers in space using the option pitch.

Today I saw zone blocking with McCoy getting the ball cutting up field and a lot of missed tackled. Teams always struggle with brand new offenses in the NFL. Remember the wildcat?

I trust the defense watched a lot of tape of what they felt would be the closest resemblance of Kelly's offense in the NFL, it is just almost impossible to predict what a coach will do opening day in his first NFL game.

[skinsfan69]

From what I saw tonight, no way we win at Green Bay. They simply pass the ball too well for our secondary to deal with.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, if you get torched by a talent lacking, run heavy Eagles team and then a talent loaded, pass heavy Packers team in back to back weeks, you don't have a good defense. Or even an average one.

I personally believe at best the Redskins have an average defense. I guess we will find out next week.

[punch it in]

I think everyone is overthinking tonite. Granted Im not nearly schooled on the x's and o's enough to go there, (so maybe im forced into a life of underthinking the games), but - what I saw was....
Rusty Griff = unisnspired, self deflated team full of guys who dont believe they can win.
Less Rusty Griff (imagine when he is completely un-rusted) = inspired, inflated team full of guys who believe anything is possible - even coming back from 33-7!
Our D allowed what 7 points in the second half? - and I dont want to hear any garbage about the eagles played prevent, blah blah blah. We made a major run at them in the latter part of the second half, and they couldnt stop it. 5 more minutes and we win that game.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

They don't have Oregon tape at Redskins park? Funny, because I have Oregon tape and all I have is the internet.

Fix the problems from this game by Week 2, and no one remembers this game. But you have to make those adjustments, quickly. Trailing by 18 at half to a bad football team at home is not typical of a good football team.

I'm just curious. Why do you think Philly is a bad team? I swear this entire town thought Jacksonville was rolling in here this week.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, if you get torched by a talent lacking, run heavy Eagles team and then a talent loaded, pass heavy Packers team in back to back weeks, you don't have a good defense. Or even an average one.

What game were you watching?

McCoy has LOADs of talent before Kellys gimmick offense came here. Vick was always a big play QB. DeSean jackson is another fast and explosive player. The whole OL for Philly is a complete 180 from last years team. Celek is a good TE.

So where is this talent lacking beside a few areas on the defense?


The Packers are different because they don't run as fast of a paced offense as Philly does. We're used to them, so next week we better not be playing the fake the injury cause we're tired card or the 'we've never seen this offense before' card either.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

GB has Clay Matthews. He makes all tackles look bad (yes even Trent is one). I think we need to run Morris a lot as well as change it up with Helu. If I'm Kyle and Mike I'm making Robert and Pierre/Josh/Santana work on that play-action post route which we missed and dropped a few times tonight. That was our bread and butter play last year. We're going to need that to get going into this season. Also I would use more of Reed AND Davis on the field at once.

I am more worried about how the Skins are going to stop Green Bay from putting up 40 points than scoring on Green Bay right now.

Also it seemed Reed replaced Davis for the majority of the 4th quarter. Does anyone know if Davis was hurt? Or did the Skins just take him out because Reed was playing better.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I personally believe at best the Redskins have an average defense. I guess we will find out next week.

As of right now, I'm going to agree, but as Phillys offense showed tonight, we didn't have the chance to sub and use different packages that we have. Wait till we play the other 14 games (not counting Philly again) where we can see how our defense does against regular NFL offenses and not the gimmicky college hurry up offenses.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I would agree, but I think McCoy is the PERFECT back for that offense, so much open field and space, and he is dang near impossible to get down 1 on 1.

It will slow down though if Vick gets hit, which he will.

Wish McCoy was in a different division.

I give Vick a few more games before we see Foles. He is just so reckless with his body that there is no way he holds up. But I gotta give him credit tonight, he looked outstanding in the new offense.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I personally believe at best the Redskins have an average defense. I guess we will find out next week.

Our D got toasted pretty much in the second quarter. That is because we were winded beyond belief at that point. Our offense couldnt get a first down at that point. As soon as our offense found a rythym our defense hung in there. No defense in the world is going to stop that kind of tempo if they cant catch a breather for two minutes - in the second half our o started rolling and our defense was able to stop them. You are rite though........we will see next week. I believe we will win next week, as a matter of fact I believe we win handily.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Very few times I'll agree with a Dookie:

Jay Williams ‏@RealJayWilliams 4m
Respect the fact that @RGIII said "No excuses. I played poorly in the first half & I have to be better". #GrownManAnswer

An awesome thing about RGIII is I all think we knew he would say exactly that.