Coroner: Ryan Dunn Died Violent Death

[saden1]

Originally Posted by mredskins

BTW how do you like your Ryan?


I like mine well Dunn!

LOL..brilliant!

[hooskins]

Schneed tends to have some extreme positions, but you all know he throws out the bait to get bites...

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Schneed tends to have some extreme positions, but you all know he throws out the bait to get bites...

I do like to do that yes, but this is not one of those times. I do like to let you guys know when I'm trying to F with people. Not now.

There's no argument being made here, just people going "Oh my heavens, I can't believe you'd say that about someone!! How horrifying!!"

But they can't tell me why I'm wrong.

[SmootSmack]

I think there's a difference between the roads are safer with Dunn not speeding drunkingly through them with the world would be better off without him.

Kid I used to play basketball with died about 10 years ago. Good guy, got along with everyone. Had just graduated college, about to start grad school. He was coming back home from doing a favor for a family friend. He wasn't drunk or anything but driving back home at 2am he did something stupid he was speeding down an open road near his house (on the same street he lived on in fact). He wasn't going 100 mph fast, but fast enough that when he hit the speed bump he lost control of the car and veered off track and smashed right into a tree.

Are the people who drive down that road everyday safer because he's not speeding down that road trying to turn his car into the General Lee? Maybe. Is the world better off without him? I can't see how anyone can say it definitely is.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think there's a difference between the roads are safer with Dunn not speeding drunkingly through them with the world would be better off without him.

Kid I used to play basketball with died about 10 years ago. Good guy, got along with everyone. Had just graduated college, about to start grad school. He was coming back home from doing a favor for a family friend. He wasn't drunk or anything but driving back home at 2am he did something stupid he was speeding down an open road near his house (on the same street he lived on in fact). He wasn't going 100 mph fast, but fast enough that when he hit the speed bump he lost control of the car and veered off track and smashed right into a tree.

Are the people who drive down that road everyday safer because he's not speeding down that road trying to turn his car into the General Lee? Maybe. Is the world better off without him? I can't see how anyone can say it definitely is.

I would not consider that kid's loss as a net-negative. See my points in the post above about repetitive offenses. One-time indiscretions don't represent the same threat as a Ryan Dunn. With how often he drove over 100 mph, it was just a matter of time before he died or hurt somebody else.

[MTK]

The roads could have been safer if he had just made the smart decision to not drive. He didn't have to die to make the roads safer. Too bad some are so callous when it comes to a loss of life these days, regardless of the circumstances.

Schneed haven't you admitted to driving aggressively, blocking drivers, etc? Don't you think your behavior is a bit unsafe at times on the road? It just seems funny you're so all about road safety yet you engage in somewhat dangerous behaviors while on the road yourself.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The roads could have been safer if he had just made the smart decision to not drive. He didn't have to die to make the roads safer. Too bad some are so callous when it comes to a loss of life these days, regardless of the circumstances.

Schneed haven't you admitted to driving aggressively, blocking drivers, etc? Don't you think your behavior is a bit unsafe at times on the road? It just seems funny you're so all about road safety yet you engage in somewhat dangerous behaviors while on the road yourself.

I probably have not described my "blocking" techniques on the road adequately enough. I'm not swerving in front of people when they change lanes. I just camp out in the left lane and refuse to go above 75. It doesn't feel dangerous in the least.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I probably have not described my "blocking" techniques on the road adequately enough. I'm not swerving in front of people when they change lanes. I just camp out in the left lane and refuse to go above 75. It doesn't feel dangerous in the least.

What if your blocking someone incited a road rager who then swerves to get around you and hits another car? It's possible your actions could lead to a dangerous situation.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What if your blocking someone incited a road rager who then swerves to get around you and hits another car? It's possible your actions could lead to a dangerous situation.

If someone is incapable of controlling their anger, that's on them, not on me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If someone is incapable of controlling their anger, that's on them, not on me.

Yeah but you would still be part of the chain of events that set them off. Glad you could just brush off any responsibility.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What if your blocking someone incited a road rager who then swerves to get around you and hits another car? It's possible your actions could lead to a dangerous situation.

I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.

Well said.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.

I'm not really looking for anybody, and I certainly don't feel any adrenaline. I simply camp out in the left lane when people are trying to speed, and I keep my speed constant at 75. I don't seek them out and swerve in front of them, it's not some big battle, it's much more of a passive thing. I simply drive 75 in the left lane and those who don't like it can shove it.

But this is getting away from the crux of the argument. I'll grant you that yes I suppose there's the remote possibility that I could anger someone, thus nominally magnifying the probability that an accident occurs. While I've never encountered such a thing, rather than tempting fate, maybe I'll rethink doing that and instead just get out of the way.

But Ryan Dunn never learned from any mistake. He didn't care, he just kept doing it. It made him a real and significant threat on the roads. Now that he's gone, it's safer for everyone.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I probably have not described my "blocking" techniques on the road adequately enough. I'm not swerving in front of people when they change lanes. I just camp out in the left lane and refuse to go above 75. It doesn't feel dangerous in the least.

camp out? so you intentionally sit in the left lane so people behind you have to try and go around you?

You probably poses a greater threat to others on the roadway than a driver with a .09 bac doing the speed limit in the right lane.

I dont like going 75 either, but if i got a long line of cars behind me and im going the same speed as the lane to my right, i get over.

your quite they asshole to impose your set of beliefs on others, at their peril and all the other cars around you.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

camp out? so you intentionally sit in the left lane so people behind you have to try and go around you?

You probably poses a greater threat to others on the roadway than a driver with a .09 bac doing the speed limit in the right lane.

I dont like going 75 either, but if i got a long line of cars behind me and im going the same speed as the lane to my right, i get over.

your quite they asshole to impose your set of beliefs on others, at their peril and all the other cars around you.

no! oh no! it is starting all over again. Make it stop make it stop!