Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era?

Nflnick11 · 06-07-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

You realize he's only fired Turner and Schottenheimer, right? Spurrier resigned over Snyder's objection, Gibbs retired over Snyder's objection. Robiske was an interim coach, very few of whom get retained anyways but it's easy for the media to add to the Snyder legend by lumping him in with the number of coaches we've had under his ownership.

You mentioned a better relationship with the press, a better informed fanbase has to go along with it. Too many 'fans' are sheep to the media and what they put out there, factual or not.

Spurrier had an option, either resign or be fired, so what do you think looks better on your resume..back when that happend there were several reports saying that snyder gave him to options: get fired or quit

Paintrain · 06-07-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Spurrier had an option, either resign or be fired, so what do you think looks better on your resume..back when that happend there were several reports saying that snyder gave him to options: get fired or quit

SI.com - NFL - Spurrier resigns Skins' head coach - Tuesday December 30, 2003 5:04PM

'Snyder accepted Spurrier's resignation with "much regret".' If he was given the option to quit or be fired then Snyder wouldn't be shy to say, 'We both agreed it was time for a new direction.'

GTripp0012 · 06-07-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'm not going to kill the front office for James, a 7th round pick for a former first rounder, reunited with his college coach wasn't the worst deal in the world. For every Chris Horton there are a ton of guys who never make it out of training camp.

To say that 'we all knew upfront that Taylor wasn't going to work out' is playing MMQB to the highest level. For a guy who had never been hurt to suffer 2 leg injuries in a span of 4 weeks was just flukish. He was a year removed from winning defensive player of the year and was still very productive. We gambled and lost, it happens.

I agree. I was pretty adamant that we weren't going to get our value on our investment, but to say that we knew that he wasn't going to work out here was the highest order of revisionism.

I think the expectations were completely out of whack, but again, I was expecting more than what we got from him.

bedlamVR · 06-07-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

You realize he's only fired Turner and Schottenheimer, right? Spurrier resigned over Snyder's objection, Gibbs retired over Snyder's objection. Robiske was an interim coach, very few of whom get retained anyways but it's easy for the media to add to the Snyder legend by lumping him in with the number of coaches we've had under his ownership.

You mentioned a better relationship with the press, a better informed fanbase has to go along with it. Too many 'fans' are sheep to the media and what they put out there, factual or not.

I am sorry you are right . I fell into the trap about firing coaches, but when a head coach goes does everyone need to go ? From the DC to ST coach . I know some HC like to bring their guys but stability is key . I liked what we started to do under Gibbs and hire from within with Lindseys replacement, and maybe we are righting the ship by ading the HC last to an established coaching staff allowing him to bring in a couple of guys here and there, Sherman Smith etc ..

DBUCHANON101 · 06-07-2009, 06:55 PM

Time will tell. I hope it turns around this season.

Miller101 · 06-08-2009, 10:24 AM

Worst move, signing Deon Sanders when we already had the best punt/ kick returner in Brian Mitchell and the best Corner that I have ever seen play in Darrell Green.

Best Move, firing that bumb Norv! I don't know how the heck that guy managed to stay with the team so long when all he did was lose. Year after year, he just lost. Do you know that the Arizona Cardinals kicked his ass every time they played each other? The Arizona Freakin Cardinals!!! Keep in mind, this was BEFORE they had Boldin, Fitz and Warner. They had a guy called Jake the Snake. Can you believe that? We lose to a guy that calls himself Jake the Snake! I mean, what the heck is that?

Second Worse move, raising the gosh dang ticket prices so freakin high for such a crappy stadium! And charging you for parking. And getting a law passed making it illegal to walk down a street. And raising the beer prices. You know Snyder reminds me of that guy in the movie............................Can't remember the name, but it was the movie where Leo Getz was a landlord and he was like "GIMME THE RENT!" "The door was working until YOUUUUUU BROKE IT! GIMME THE RENT!" "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET IN HERE AND THEN STAY IN!" "GIMME THE RENT!" "Its to cold? Well, if you want to stay warm why don't you dance!" GIMME THE RENT! Thats who Snyder reminds me of.

RedskinMike · 06-08-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Miller101

Worst move, signing Deon Sanders when we already had the best punt/ kick returner in Brian Mitchell and the best Corner that I have ever seen play in Darrell Green.

Best Move, firing that bumb Norv! I don't know how the heck that guy managed to stay with the team so long when all he did was lose. Year after year, he just lost. Do you know that the Arizona Cardinals kicked his ass every time they played each other? The Arizona Freakin Cardinals!!! Keep in mind, this was BEFORE they had Boldin, Fitz and Warner. They had a guy called Jake the Snake. Can you believe that? We lose to a guy that calls himself Jake the Snake! I mean, what the heck is that?

Second Worse move, raising the gosh dang ticket prices so freakin high for such a crappy stadium! And charging you for parking. And getting a law passed making it illegal to walk down a street. And raising the beer prices. You know Snyder reminds me of that guy in the movie............................Can't remember the name, but it was the movie where Leo Getz was a landlord and he was like "GIMME THE RENT!" "The door was working until YOUUUUUU BROKE IT! GIMME THE RENT!" "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET IN HERE AND THEN STAY IN!" "GIMME THE RENT!" "Its to cold? Well, if you want to stay warm why don't you dance!" GIMME THE RENT! Thats who Snyder reminds me of.

The movie is The Super with Joe Pesci. His name was Louie Kritski. Leo Getz was from Lethal Weapon

firstdown · 06-08-2009, 04:50 PM

I think Snyder does his best and tries every year to put a winning team on the field. I'm so tired of reading all of the Snyder bashing and I'm not sure why I even opened up this worn out thread.

DBUCHANON101 · 06-08-2009, 05:25 PM

^ agreed

Beemnseven · 06-08-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

To say that 'we all knew upfront that Taylor wasn't going to work out' is playing MMQB to the highest level. For a guy who had never been hurt to suffer 2 leg injuries in a span of 4 weeks was just flukish. He was a year removed from winning defensive player of the year and was still very productive. We gambled and lost, it happens.

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I agree. I was pretty adamant that we weren't going to get our value on our investment, but to say that we knew that he wasn't going to work out here was the highest order of revisionism.

I think the expectations were completely out of whack, but again, I was expecting more than what we got from him.

Nobody's busting on the front office for not being able to predict the future with Taylor's injuries. Year after year of neglecting the defensive line through the draft came to fruit because they had no capable replacement on stand by, then they panicked and overpayed with a second round pick for a guy who was clearly at the end of his career.

It's yet another hallmark of a front office that hasn't a clue, and their losing record proves it.

DBUCHANON101 · 06-08-2009, 11:11 PM

He was a double digit sack man,how was it clear that he was at the end????

Beemnseven · 06-09-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

He was a double digit sack man,how was it clear that he was at the end????

Let's see ... He'll be 35 years old by the start of this season. Is age 35 typically the beginning, the middle or the end of most football careers?

DBUCHANON101 · 06-09-2009, 09:55 AM

Based on his performance you couldnt have known he was going to drop off the way he did, the man was one of the top 5 defenders in the league. How old was Green when he retired?? And he was STILL one of the best/fastest corners in the league. There are exceptions to the age rule my friend.

Crash · 06-09-2009, 11:43 AM

1. Firing Marty & hiring the Ol Ball Coach
2. Trading Champ & a pick for Portis
3. Trading for Jason Taylor
4. Jeff George
5. Lloyd and Arch

CRedskinsRule · 06-09-2009, 11:59 AM

In thinking more on this, I think Snyder's biggest mistake, and probably the one which set the tone for his ownership, was when he first bought the team. He came in and cleaned house, starting in PR, if I remember right. Now, I understand that this is normal when a new owner comes in, but the way he did it, I remember it had a huge media backlash, and I think his first 5 years all were done under the umbrella of that, building a reputation for brashness.

I think he is a far better owner now, and that he is not nearly as impetuous as some continue to believe. But his first impression will not be gone until a SB comes to town.

06-07-2009, 06:55 PM	#65
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era? Time will tell. I hope it turns around this season.

06-08-2009, 10:24 AM	#66
Miller101 Special Teams Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 362	Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era? Worst move, signing Deon Sanders when we already had the best punt/ kick returner in Brian Mitchell and the best Corner that I have ever seen play in Darrell Green. Best Move, firing that bumb Norv! I don't know how the heck that guy managed to stay with the team so long when all he did was lose. Year after year, he just lost. Do you know that the Arizona Cardinals kicked his ass every time they played each other? The Arizona Freakin Cardinals!!! Keep in mind, this was BEFORE they had Boldin, Fitz and Warner. They had a guy called Jake the Snake. Can you believe that? We lose to a guy that calls himself Jake the Snake! I mean, what the heck is that? Second Worse move, raising the gosh dang ticket prices so freakin high for such a crappy stadium! And charging you for parking. And getting a law passed making it illegal to walk down a street. And raising the beer prices. You know Snyder reminds me of that guy in the movie............................Can't remember the name, but it was the movie where Leo Getz was a landlord and he was like "GIMME THE RENT!" "The door was working until YOUUUUUU BROKE IT! GIMME THE RENT!" "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET IN HERE AND THEN STAY IN!" "GIMME THE RENT!" "Its to cold? Well, if you want to stay warm why don't you dance!" GIMME THE RENT! Thats who Snyder reminds me of. __________________ "And the Redskins went down there and manhandled them and they basically undressed them and now everybody's been lining up to get a piece of them." - John Riggins on the last game we played in Texas Stadium

06-08-2009, 04:50 PM	#68
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era? I think Snyder does his best and tries every year to put a winning team on the field. I'm so tired of reading all of the Snyder bashing and I'm not sure why I even opened up this worn out thread.

06-08-2009, 05:25 PM	#69
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era? ^ agreed

06-08-2009, 11:11 PM	#71
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era? He was a double digit sack man,how was it clear that he was at the end????

06-09-2009, 09:55 AM	#73
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era? Based on his performance you couldnt have known he was going to drop off the way he did, the man was one of the top 5 defenders in the league. How old was Green when he retired?? And he was STILL one of the best/fastest corners in the league. There are exceptions to the age rule my friend.

06-09-2009, 11:43 AM	#74
Crash Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Halethorpe, MD Posts: 100	Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era? 1. Firing Marty & hiring the Ol Ball Coach 2. Trading Champ & a pick for Portis 3. Trading for Jason Taylor 4. Jeff George 5. Lloyd and Arch

06-09-2009, 11:59 AM	#75
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,382	Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era? In thinking more on this, I think Snyder's biggest mistake, and probably the one which set the tone for his ownership, was when he first bought the team. He came in and cleaned house, starting in PR, if I remember right. Now, I understand that this is normal when a new owner comes in, but the way he did it, I remember it had a huge media backlash, and I think his first 5 years all were done under the umbrella of that, building a reputation for brashness. I think he is a far better owner now, and that he is not nearly as impetuous as some continue to believe. But his first impression will not be gone until a SB comes to town.

Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era?

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