How bout it Lavar

Southpaw · 01-08-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I am not trying to take anything away from the good things Lavar did. But this thread started out as another "Lavar is awesome and anyone who doubts it is stupid" thread and struck me as just one more thread on looking at the world through lavar colored glasses.

The only reason this is a thread at all is because better that have the board is in the "I've always loved LaVar, but..." camp. No one has ever questioned Marcus Washingtons ability, or his contribution to the team. Yet, there's constantly someone talking about how "boneheaded" or "overrated" LaVar is.

As I said before, I agree that worshipping LaVar is a bit overboard, but so is looking for excuses to sh-t on him.

AnonEmouse · 01-08-2006, 02:56 PM

OK, I just read the article on Arringtons performance on redskins.com.

I didn't realise his wife was due to give birth this week. Hope it's early in the week!

Given this little tidbit, anyone else feel that a) he'll be even more up for it against Seattle and b) he may well come back next year with a different (more mature?) attitude?

Dirtbag · 01-08-2006, 04:36 PM

Great games by Lavar and the rest of the LBs. Hats off!

The offsides penalty sucked obviously, but I'll still take that any day if it comes with 8 tackles and a crucial INT. Way to go, Lavar

PorterHouse · 01-08-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Marcus without a doubt, WITHOUT A DOUBT, outplayed Lavar today, he is by far our best LB, Lavar made 1 big play, and that was the INT, and the pepsi machine could have made that one, a deflected pass right into his sturnum real tough, he also looked like he was running in slow motion for the end zone.

Where's the big time pass rush? Where's the big play ability? I am glad he made that INT but lets be realistic, just about anyone on this site could have made that play, he was just in the right place at the right time, not a common occurance for Lavar.

Lavar doesn't sack the QB, he doesn't even pressure him, he's supposed to be a difference maker, HE'S NOT!

Marcus turned in the play of the game on the 4th and 1 in the red zone late in the game, he forced Simms to throw an incomplete pass, that was the play that turned the momentum for us. [the dropped pass in the end zone was the biggest turning point but we didn't create that, tampa shot themselves in the foot]

this is the reason i started this thread, are you kidding me , with Lavar we have one of the best linebacking cores in the league. second to denver. without Lavar we just have a Greg Williams system doin what it always does... work. and thats not a problem at all. but this team needs Lavar. he's definatly a threat and offenses have to account for him. if you noticed after the first half have we rarely blitzed at all and when we did blitz they were run blitzes and when we run blitz Lavar is covering the te. if we wanna talk about an easy interception. the interception that ended the game was right in there also. im mean come on with Lavar in there we add to our threats on defense, and it gives Sean Taylor more of a chance to run around and drop the hammer on someone. You know we all love to see that. I say keep Lavar and we have the #1 defense next year.

Paintrain · 01-08-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Marcus without a doubt, WITHOUT A DOUBT, outplayed Lavar today, he is by far our best LB, Lavar made 1 big play, and that was the INT, and the pepsi machine could have made that one, a deflected pass right into his sturnum real tough, he also looked like he was running in slow motion for the end zone.

Without taking sides, gotta give props for the funniest line of the thread.. Well done Offiss..

MACHINE

MACHINE

MACHINE

PorterHouse · 01-08-2006, 04:45 PM

its almost idioc Paintrain isnt it?

mheisig · 01-08-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

And Lavar fumbled his return and got lucky that it was called down by contact. Those weren't mental mistakes, rather good play by the tacklers.

Dropping the ball after you are down is neither a fumble nor a "mental mistake."

offiss · 01-08-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PorterHouse

this is the reason i started this thread, are you kidding me , with Lavar we have one of the best linebacking cores in the league. second to denver. without Lavar we just have a Greg Williams system doin what it always does... work. and thats not a problem at all. but this team needs Lavar. he's definatly a threat and offenses have to account for him. if you noticed after the first half have we rarely blitzed at all and when we did blitz they were run blitzes and when we run blitz Lavar is covering the te. if we wanna talk about an easy interception. the interception that ended the game was right in there also. im mean come on with Lavar in there we add to our threats on defense, and it gives Sean Taylor more of a chance to run around and drop the hammer on someone. You know we all love to see that. I say keep Lavar and we have the #1 defense next year.

C. Clemons was on his way to becoming Lavar's full time replacement before he was hurt. If you want to talk coverage skills you may want to talk to G. Williams and ask why he was replacing lavar on passing downs all season long?

ladyfan06 · 01-08-2006, 07:02 PM

I am really beginning to grow tired of how much we come on the website and try to compare one of our beloved -vs- one of our beloved (i.e. Brunell vs Ramsey saga)..both LA and MW were GREAT...the D was just GREAT. Any contribution that LA or MW gives us on any play I will take it and I refuse to spend time picking apart whom is better than the other! They are BOTH Redskins players, we are ALL Redskins fans (supposedly)....like Lavar said Loyalty is a two-way street....respect him and root for him just because he is a SKINS player trying to accomplish the ultimate...the SB.

Don't get me wrong...I am not a LAVAR-worshipper as someone earlier stated in the thread...nor am I a MARCUS-hater....good football is good football and if Lavar can make 1 good play or Marcus makes 1 good play it does not matter to me....with that being said....the ultimate ingredient in the recipe for success in the game of football is TEAMWORK>>> Please save all your dissections and comparisons for the offseason, we don't need that right now!

Concentrate, focus and prepare for Seattle and win the game!

GOOOOOOO SKINS!!!!!

PorterHouse · 01-08-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

C. Clemons was on his way to becoming Lavar's full time replacement before he was hurt. If you want to talk coverage skills you may want to talk to G. Williams and ask why he was replacing lavar on passing downs all season long?

when he is coming out on third down it so the nickel back or 2 db's can come in. you know you cant deny his coverage skills. we could ague this forever im just glad your not making any of these decisions.

jtm74 · 01-08-2006, 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]MW has been making those kinds of plays all year, LaVar finallly makes one and everyone goes nuts.[/QU

lavars been making plays for this team six years so shut ya piehole

OTE]

mooby · 01-08-2006, 07:39 PM

I am a Lavar fan, but I am a Marcus fan as well. For the Lavar haters, you guys all talk about how much he sucks, and yada yada, but the fact is, when he is on the field, he makes an impact. No, you don't see a huge play as much as you do from marcus, but when he's on the field, other teams know where he is, and that frees things up for our other playmakers. No doubt Marcus has been the better player all year long, but as soon as Lavar does one good thing all I hear from the Lavar haters is that he was lucky, yada yada, he got lucky they ruled it down by contact, and all i hear from the Lavar worshipers is that he is totally worth it, and it proved he's still a good player. Lavar makes enough of an impact.

@offiss: You really think Chris Clemons was gonna be Lavar's full time replacement? what a daft statement, considering when Lavar wasn't in there on first and second down, Warrick Holdman was. Chris Clemons only came in on third downs to rush the passer. The reason for that is, Chris Clemons can rush the passer better than Lavar. I don't have any problem saying that, Chris Clemons has speed, and that's what his primary role is.

mcalderone10 · 01-08-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

NO - it was a big deal. That's the point. Lavar makes a great play followed by a bonehead play. Fortunately the defense stepped up and covered for him giving away a crucial first down. Sorry - if he gets recognition for the good stuff then fess up and admit that the was a classic dumb Lavar mistake.

Again, MW is hyped every f***ing play - When was the last time you saw him jump offsides?

To win at the highest level it takes everybody doing all the little things right. No freebies for the other team. That's what Gibbs has been preaching, that's what the majority of the players seem to understand and that's why we are in the playoffs.

you are talking like we can only keep one or the other they are BOTH BEASTS. lavar has history being one of 2 multiyear skins pro bowlers the other being samuels. like smart people have said greg williams is the genious behind the Defense stop saying MW is better he's just had more time with the GW defense remember lavar was out most of last year while marcus was playin GW way. LAVAR is just needs time he's gone through so many dif D coordinators we NEED him back this feels like its dan snyder's money paid D not the redskins D i remember with smoot champ lavar and my man Darrell Green. I love the D just gotta hold on to the same players to keep this team a team.

offiss · 01-08-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PorterHouse

when he is coming out on third down it so the nickel back or 2 db's can come in. you know you cant deny his coverage skills. we could ague this forever im just glad your not making any of these decisions.

Sorry but you haven't been paying attention, Clemons was replacing Lavar all season on passing down's. Not a nickle corner.

PorterHouse · 01-09-2006, 12:55 AM

To rush the qb it's common knowledge that Lavar has had his problems. comin back from injury, fitting in with the system. if The Great G.W. didnt think he could help this D then he would be on the bench. He's done it already. The mans a starter and a presence. Stop hatin on him. I remember us only sendin one or two people to the pro bowl and Lavar was always one of em. How can you say you like the team and your hatin on a team mate. This guy gave his all for the Skins, Iremember every tackle he made was so hard that he would have to come out cause he hurt himself,( ask Troy if he's a player)Six years how many defensive coordinators how many different systems? Can you blame him for wanting to freelance out there. Now he knows what he got to do and thats ok with me as long as we are winning thats all that matters. I m a Redskins fan not a Marcus fan or a Lavar fan I love the whole team everyone has a roll and everyones playin it. They both had the exact same stats 9 tackles 1 pick. but the biggest thing you need to remember is the score. If anyone should go its the guy holdin the wire from Joe"s headset cause joe tripped over it at least twice.

01-08-2006, 02:56 PM	#62
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,614	Re: How bout it Lavar OK, I just read the article on Arringtons performance on redskins.com. I didn't realise his wife was due to give birth this week. Hope it's early in the week! Given this little tidbit, anyone else feel that a) he'll be even more up for it against Seattle and b) he may well come back next year with a different (more mature?) attitude?

01-08-2006, 04:36 PM	#63
Dirtbag Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 142	Re: How bout it Lavar Great games by Lavar and the rest of the LBs. Hats off! The offsides penalty sucked obviously, but I'll still take that any day if it comes with 8 tackles and a crucial INT. Way to go, Lavar

01-08-2006, 04:45 PM	#66
PorterHouse No new threads for you Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 49 Posts: 230	Re: How bout it Lavar its almost idioc Paintrain isnt it?

01-08-2006, 07:02 PM	#69
ladyfan06 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Suitland, Maryland Age: 49 Posts: 123	Re: How bout it Lavar I am really beginning to grow tired of how much we come on the website and try to compare one of our beloved -vs- one of our beloved (i.e. Brunell vs Ramsey saga)..both LA and MW were GREAT...the D was just GREAT. Any contribution that LA or MW gives us on any play I will take it and I refuse to spend time picking apart whom is better than the other! They are BOTH Redskins players, we are ALL Redskins fans (supposedly)....like Lavar said Loyalty is a two-way street....respect him and root for him just because he is a SKINS player trying to accomplish the ultimate...the SB. Don't get me wrong...I am not a LAVAR-worshipper as someone earlier stated in the thread...nor am I a MARCUS-hater....good football is good football and if Lavar can make 1 good play or Marcus makes 1 good play it does not matter to me....with that being said....the ultimate ingredient in the recipe for success in the game of football is TEAMWORK>>> Please save all your dissections and comparisons for the offseason, we don't need that right now! Concentrate, focus and prepare for Seattle and win the game! GOOOOOOO SKINS!!!!! __________________ LOYALTY is being Redskins fans!!

01-08-2006, 07:13 PM	#71
jtm74 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22	Re: How bout it Lavar [QUOTE=Mattyk72]MW has been making those kinds of plays all year, LaVar finallly makes one and everyone goes nuts.[/QU lavars been making plays for this team six years so shut ya piehole OTE]

01-08-2006, 07:39 PM	#72
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,571	Re: How bout it Lavar I am a Lavar fan, but I am a Marcus fan as well. For the Lavar haters, you guys all talk about how much he sucks, and yada yada, but the fact is, when he is on the field, he makes an impact. No, you don't see a huge play as much as you do from marcus, but when he's on the field, other teams know where he is, and that frees things up for our other playmakers. No doubt Marcus has been the better player all year long, but as soon as Lavar does one good thing all I hear from the Lavar haters is that he was lucky, yada yada, he got lucky they ruled it down by contact, and all i hear from the Lavar worshipers is that he is totally worth it, and it proved he's still a good player. Lavar makes enough of an impact. @offiss: You really think Chris Clemons was gonna be Lavar's full time replacement? what a daft statement, considering when Lavar wasn't in there on first and second down, Warrick Holdman was. Chris Clemons only came in on third downs to rush the passer. The reason for that is, Chris Clemons can rush the passer better than Lavar. I don't have any problem saying that, Chris Clemons has speed, and that's what his primary role is. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

01-09-2006, 12:55 AM	#75
PorterHouse No new threads for you Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 49 Posts: 230	Re: How bout it Lavar To rush the qb it's common knowledge that Lavar has had his problems. comin back from injury, fitting in with the system. if The Great G.W. didnt think he could help this D then he would be on the bench. He's done it already. The mans a starter and a presence. Stop hatin on him. I remember us only sendin one or two people to the pro bowl and Lavar was always one of em. How can you say you like the team and your hatin on a team mate. This guy gave his all for the Skins, Iremember every tackle he made was so hard that he would have to come out cause he hurt himself,( ask Troy if he's a player)Six years how many defensive coordinators how many different systems? Can you blame him for wanting to freelance out there. Now he knows what he got to do and thats ok with me as long as we are winning thats all that matters. I m a Redskins fan not a Marcus fan or a Lavar fan I love the whole team everyone has a roll and everyones playin it. They both had the exact same stats 9 tackles 1 pick. but the biggest thing you need to remember is the score. If anyone should go its the guy holdin the wire from Joe"s headset cause joe tripped over it at least twice.

How bout it Lavar

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