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Old 12-15-2020, 12:14 PM   #1
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The defense won the game last week all by themselves. Smith started it and he will get credit for a ''win" but he really had nothing to do with it. The WL record of the QB is the worst stat in football.
The defense definitely won that game, but the backup QB almost lost it too - even with how good the defense was. If DH had given that ball away and SF ended up winning, he would get the loss and the blame, and it would be warranted. So I wouldn't go that far.

In the end it's the wins and losses that matter, and whoever the QB is either gets all the credit, or all the blame. It's just the way it is and always has been.
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:29 PM   #2
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say what you want about win loss record and the qb, but from 2018 til now this team are 10 and 4 with Smith starting, and 5 and 25 with him not starting. He makes the offense not putrid. No that is not high praise and we need to find a longterm future qb, but if he gets past this calf issue, AS can be penciled in as a viable starting point to build from.
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:48 PM   #3
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No, you can't just ignore Smith's W/L record here. Somehow the team wins more often than not when he's in the lineup, it's just a fact.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:04 PM   #4
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Re: Wft quarterback of the future

Since taking over as the starter, Smith is 4-1 and the team is averaging 26.8 points, which ranks seventh in the NFL since Week 10.

It's been a team effort / complementary football.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:07 PM   #5
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lol @ dak prescott.... FUCK NO.
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Old 12-15-2020, 03:17 PM   #6
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lol @ dak prescott.... FUCK NO.
Yup. Dak = Kirk Cousins Pt. II
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Old 12-15-2020, 02:41 PM   #7
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Jone may be available in the middle of the first round. But I think Lawrence, Fields and Trask will all go pretty early in the draft.
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Old 12-15-2020, 03:18 PM   #8
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Re: Wft quarterback of the future

There's a lot of maneuvering that can be done. If they are not sold on DH, and there's a QB they really like who slips more than expected in the draft, I can see them moving up to get him. Especially if they are able to fill some holes in free agency. It worked out with Sweat. At the time I wasn't a fan of giving up a 2nd, but it appears to be a steal now.
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Old 12-15-2020, 03:24 PM   #9
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Seems like a lot of teams eyeing QBs, obviously Lawrence and Fields are out of reach even for a trade up if the opportunity arose. Lance and Wilson gone in the top ten, Trask and Jones likely by pick 20, if our front office loves one of the four I am OK with trading up because they have the foundations of a good team with one or two free agents added, so they can afford to invest a large chunk of draft picks in a franchise player if thoff-season they really love. I think, like many here, I am at ease with whatever RR wants to do because for the first time in a verrrry long time I actually trust the judgment of the front office, which makes for a far less stressful offseason.
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Re: Wft quarterback of the future

Dallas, San Diego and Cincinnati have great chance of trading down for big haul of picks when the 6-15 teams looking for QBs start panicking
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Dallas, San Diego and Cincinnati have great chance of trading down for big haul of picks when the 6-15 teams looking for QBs start panicking
Dallas might just choose to reboot and grab their own rookie QB. Looks like they will be drafting in the top 5. They haven't shown any love for Dak, and now that he's had this injury, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to move on. They have more needs than the WFT, and have a ton of $$ tied up in Cooper, Elliott, Lawrence, the O-line...they may not want to shell out what it will take to bring him back.
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Old 12-15-2020, 03:46 PM   #12
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Well Dallas kind of depends on how hard a line they want to draw with Dak. But yes, San Diego and Cincinnati may be willing to trade down since they both have their QB's of the future. Now if we could get in the range for Fields, let's go for it. Would be kind of humorous if Fields replaces Haskins with Washington just as he did at OSU.
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Old 12-15-2020, 04:06 PM   #13
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I'm not so sure Cincy will want to trade down. They almost surely will take Sewell if NYJ and JAX take QBs as expected. They need to shore up the OL to protect Burrow. His injury underscores that. I don't see them passing up on the #1 OL in the draft.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:00 PM   #14
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I'm not so sure Cincy will want to trade down. They almost surely will take Sewell if NYJ and JAX take QBs as expected. They need to shore up the OL to protect Burrow. His injury underscores that. I don't see them passing up on the #1 OL in the draft.
I think you are probably right but they did draft a Left tackle last year and they could probably get 2-3 good interior guys for their first pick, which may tempt them.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:25 PM   #15
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I can only see the draft as the option to upgrade QB. Haskins isn't it; Sunday pretty much confirmed that. He might improve with a lot of coaching and mentoring, but that's not the NFL. Maybe he gets lucky and goes to a team with an incumbent vet that can use him as a project, but that's not WFT.
But I'm concerned that if we do win the division and pick around 19th, we don't reach or make a bad trade.

I don't get to see much CFB over here, so I can pretty much only go by YouTube. I'm inclined to trust Kyle Smith but he hasn't drafted a QB yet, and I don't count Haskins as his choice. I'm not convinced about Fields but he's probably gone top 5 so not our problem. If Wilson is there at our pick then I would take him, but he might benefit from time behind/mentored by Smith. Lance worries me with his accuracy issues. Seems a poor man's Jackson to me. Trask intrigues me, the only downside seems to be his athleticism; does he have enough mobility for the modern NFL? I'd take a chance on him and work around his running ability if he's there at our spot and rated up there, but I wouldn't reach for him. I commented on Mac Jones earlier, and he looks raw to me with a poor arm.

Let's see where we finish the season and therefore pick. Seems the more successful we are this season the worse off we are after it! 🤨🤪
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