'Ax Men' star's daughter mauled to death by dog

firstdown · 03-04-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Do you even watch the show? Are you sure you know who i am talking about? The man curses, swears, and goes off every minute that the TV is on.

Exchange words from time to time? The more i re-read your post i get the feeling that you dont know who i am talking about.

Hell I might have the wrong show for what that matters.

budw38 · 03-04-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I'll argee with this. Whne I was talking about Rots and Pits I was speaking from the stand point that I would not have one in my home. I don't have problem with people who choose to but its a risk they take. I'm sure I take risk all the time that others would not take.

I agree , I do not have a problem with Pits and Rots , I just won't live with something that is capable of killing me . Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site | Cesar Millan I understand he is one of the most respected dog trainers around .

cpayne5 · 03-04-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by budw38

I agree , I do not have a problem with Pits and Rots , I just won't live with something that is capable of killing me . Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site | Cesar Millan I understand he is one of the most respected dog trainers around .

You're not married, I take it.

The Goat · 03-04-2010, 10:08 PM

Sad thread turned bizarre.

How can there be any debate whether kids should be left alone w/ animals that can kill them? Seriously? Don't tell me well-trained dogs don't attack. Pull that tail harder or slap its nose and see what happens. The kid doesn't know better because it's a kid...the dog doesn't know better because it's 90% instinct. Bad combo!!!

SolidSnake84 · 03-05-2010, 08:00 AM

YouTube - Ax Men: Jim Feels The Pressure

Just so there is no confusion lol as to who i'm talking about. Watch the clip. This is Jimmy & James from S&S Logging....the language is NSFW.

mredskins · 03-05-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

YouTube - Ax Men: Jim Feels The Pressure

Just so there is no confusion lol as to who i'm talking about. Watch the clip. This is Jimmy & James from S&S Logging....the language is NSFW.

I have worked in plenty of kitchens and chefs are pretty much like this all the time in the heat of the moment but they be the first to buy you a drink at the end of the night too. In high stress jobs people sometimes just like to swear and yell you got be able to realize they are pissed at the moment not you. I would say this is probably not a good measuring stick of who this guy really is.

budw38 · 03-05-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

You're not married, I take it.

LOL . No , I'am not . I will have to take my chances one day , of course , these days , I would be more worried about her taking half my $ than my life

cpayne5 · 03-07-2010, 01:31 PM

Ironically, the topic of Cesar Millan's latest episode spoke exclusively about dangerous dog myths. He highlighted three breeds - Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, and German Shepherds. Check it out. The show airs on National Geographic Channel. The title is "Most Aggressive Breeds".

I found one of his closing quotes to be perfect for this thread...
"So next time you hear about a dog attack, please don't just blame the dog or its breed. Let's all make sure everyone understands why the dog became that way - because of the human in that dog's life."

DynamiteRave · 03-07-2010, 06:14 PM

I'm a huge fan of both Pits and Rotts and hope to own one of the two soon.

The thing I feel though is you have to be VERY careful of those that you get from shelters, especially if they have had a background full of abuse.

And training is SO important with any dog. I work with dogs and nothing pisses me off more than a dog that walks you instead of you walking it. Just spend the $150 (at Petsmart. There are some places that offer training for free), take an 8 week course, keep up the training at home and it makes everyone so much happier and I'm sure the furniture and carpet will appreciate it too.

That being said, you have to be careful with kids around ANY sort of dog. Just because rotts and pitts are known to be aggressive (with bad training/owners) doesn't mean if you don't piss off the local golden retriever enough it won't snap at you.

Oh and if you wanna talk aggressive breeds... Look no further than a chihuahua. Those things are little rat bastards.

firstdown · 03-08-2010, 11:46 AM

Besides teaching my dogs how to sit, come, walk on a leash, and a few other things I have never had to teach them how not to attack people. I guess that's what has to be done if you own a dangerous dog. I'm thinking if I have to teach a dog not to attack then its probably not a good idea for a family pet.

budw38 · 03-08-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Besides teaching my dogs how to sit, come, walk on a leash, and a few other things I have never had to teach them how not to attack people. I guess that's what has to be done if you own a dangerous dog. I'm thinking if I have to teach a dog not to attack then its probably not a good idea for a family pet.

Just find an old stuffed animal , put it in a .... cowturd , iggle or giants jersey and tease the hell out of the dog/s .... and let us know what happens

firstdown · 03-08-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by budw38

Just find an old stuffed animal , put it in a .... cowturd , iggle or giants jersey and tease the hell out of the dog/s .... and let us know what happens

What any dog or a rot/ pit.

wolfeskins · 03-08-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

Ironically, the topic of Cesar Millan's latest episode spoke exclusively about dangerous dog myths. He highlighted three breeds - Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, and German Shepherds. Check it out. The show airs on National Geographic Channel. The title is "Most Aggressive Breeds".

I found one of his closing quotes to be perfect for this thread...
"So next time you hear about a dog attack, please don't just blame the dog or its breed. Let's all make sure everyone understands why the dog became that way - because of the human in that dog's life."

in some cases, yes, the owner can be blamed but in 99% of dog attacks, the dog is to be blamed because of those 99%, 98% of them are pits or rotts. those dogs are just too aggressive and they can snap without warning. imo, it's a stupid idea to have a pit or rott if you have small children, why not just get a lion or an alligator.

firstdown · 03-08-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

in some cases, yes, the owner can be blamed but in 99% of dog attacks, the dog is to be blamed because of those 99%, 98% of them are pits or rotts. those dogs are just too aggressive and they can snap without warning. imo, it's a stupid idea to have a pit or rott if you have small children, why not just get a lion or an alligator.

I don't think that Rots or Pits attack much more then the average dog its just the damage they do when they attack.

cpayne5 · 03-08-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

in some cases, yes, the owner can be blamed but in 99% of dog attacks, the dog is to be blamed because of those 99%, 98% of them are pits or rotts. those dogs are just too aggressive and they can snap without warning. imo, it's a stupid idea to have a pit or rott if you have small children, why not just get a lion or an alligator.

98% of dog attacks are Pits or Rotts? Really, you can't possibly believe that, can you?

It's stupid to assume that a Rottweiler or a Pit Bull can't be a great dog with your kids. It's also stupid to compare these dogs to a lion or an alligator.

Want to visit mine the next time you're in northern Virginia? If you like dogs at all, you'll leave with a different mindset. I guarantee it.

03-04-2010, 10:08 PM	#64
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: 'Ax Men' star's daughter mauled to death by dog Sad thread turned bizarre. How can there be any debate whether kids should be left alone w/ animals that can kill them? Seriously? Don't tell me well-trained dogs don't attack. Pull that tail harder or slap its nose and see what happens. The kid doesn't know better because it's a kid...the dog doesn't know better because it's 90% instinct. Bad combo!!! __________________ 24-34

03-05-2010, 08:00 AM	#65
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,947	Re: 'Ax Men' star's daughter mauled to death by dog YouTube - Ax Men: Jim Feels The Pressure Just so there is no confusion lol as to who i'm talking about. Watch the clip. This is Jimmy & James from S&S Logging....the language is NSFW. __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

03-07-2010, 01:31 PM	#68
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: 'Ax Men' star's daughter mauled to death by dog Ironically, the topic of Cesar Millan's latest episode spoke exclusively about dangerous dog myths. He highlighted three breeds - Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, and German Shepherds. Check it out. The show airs on National Geographic Channel. The title is "Most Aggressive Breeds". I found one of his closing quotes to be perfect for this thread... "So next time you hear about a dog attack, please don't just blame the dog or its breed. Let's all make sure everyone understands why the dog became that way - because of the human in that dog's life." __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

03-07-2010, 06:14 PM	#69
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 37 Posts: 16,866	Re: 'Ax Men' star's daughter mauled to death by dog I'm a huge fan of both Pits and Rotts and hope to own one of the two soon. The thing I feel though is you have to be VERY careful of those that you get from shelters, especially if they have had a background full of abuse. And training is SO important with any dog. I work with dogs and nothing pisses me off more than a dog that walks you instead of you walking it. Just spend the $150 (at Petsmart. There are some places that offer training for free), take an 8 week course, keep up the training at home and it makes everyone so much happier and I'm sure the furniture and carpet will appreciate it too. That being said, you have to be careful with kids around ANY sort of dog. Just because rotts and pitts are known to be aggressive (with bad training/owners) doesn't mean if you don't piss off the local golden retriever enough it won't snap at you. Oh and if you wanna talk aggressive breeds... Look no further than a chihuahua. Those things are little rat bastards. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

03-08-2010, 11:46 AM	#70
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: 'Ax Men' star's daughter mauled to death by dog Besides teaching my dogs how to sit, come, walk on a leash, and a few other things I have never had to teach them how not to attack people. I guess that's what has to be done if you own a dangerous dog. I'm thinking if I have to teach a dog not to attack then its probably not a good idea for a family pet.

'Ax Men' star's daughter mauled to death by dog

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