Must win Skins vs Bucs pregame prediction thread

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm going to the game for the first time in years. So in the spirit of not blowing it, I say we lose 56-3. Just a bloodbath. Everyone gets canned afterwards. Even McCloughan.

Perfect post.

Enjoy brah

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm going to the game for the first time in years. So in the spirit of not blowing it, I say we lose 56-3. Just a bloodbath. Everyone gets canned afterwards. Even McCloughan.

I have a feeling this is a sarcastic post, but I feel the same way.

Tampa Bay comes to town, totally destroys us in an embarrassing spectacle that is so bad that most of the hometown fans have cleared out by half-time, as the score is already 38-3 - Cousins does not have a good game and throws four INT's in the first half. McCoy replaces Cousins, but throws a pick in the 3rd before being injured, to get replaced by RG3!!! RG3 comes in and throws 3 picks of his own, but the skins have no one else to turn to.

Final Score: Tampa Bay 63, Washington 3. Jameis Winston finishes the day 47/59, for 556 yards, breaking the NFL record set by Norm Van Broccoli in 1951.

Aftermath: Jay Gruden, and SM are both fired, Bill Callahan takes over as head coach, and the Skins go on a hell of a run, winning their last 9 games in a row to win the division at 11-5. Cousins sets the single season INT record at 43, BUT also throws for 35 TD's....

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Don't fret over that post; I l know many, like yourself, aren't used to posts that are actually about football Xs and Os you know? Might be over your head maybe? Who knows...

cheers all the same

You cannot possibly as overbearing as you sound. Wait, wait, actually you are...

What a dick. Never, ever, in 8 years here blocked anyone. Getting close, though...

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Per rotoworld....kinda like i was saying the other day...Garcon, DJax, Roberts, even Grant...WR corp gonna be gone next year.

Garcon has been a great player for us. It's a shame his talent and effort has been wasted on this crappy team.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The gameplan and playcalling remains predictable. In broad strokes without getting too far into the weeds; Jay's offense lacks disguise. By and large on first down if its a run he's going to use a formation that indicates run. I-Form or Single back usually with base personnel or 2/3 TEs. IF Jay drop back passes on 1st down its usually from a formation that he doesn't use to run. Shotgun 1 back or under center 3 wide or empty (and the pass is usually a screen). You know why defense seem to be all over the WR screen to Crowder on 1st down? Because its one of the only passes we run from that shotgun formation on 1st down.
Imho If they want to be a better run team they need to run the ball from some of the same formations, personnel and down and distance that they pass from.

TLDR: Jay's offense 1st down= run from base formations/base personnel.
IF Jay's offense comes out in a pass set on 1st down its going to be a pass.
Defenses have a good read on what's coming based on formations.

D coordinators aren't stupid. They watch the game film. They observed Jay's 1st down--base formation--base personnel run tendency. So? They fill the box with 8 and their ILBs have the green light to "fire their gun" when they read run.

But, aggressive 8-man boxes shouldn't necessarily doom the run game. Good run games face that every week.
But when you combine 1st down predictability with using inadequate or inconsistent blockers i.e. Carrier/Reed to block the POA it gets harder.
I still don't understand why they don't use more I-form with Daryl Young as the POA blocker rather then TEs?
Anyhow, couple that with rotating RBs.
Add not sticking to the run outside of 1st down.
Add lack of variety/not finding the right mix in the run game i.e. Alf likes tosses and Alf needs carries to get rhythm.
Add telegraphing the 'type' of run based on the runner i.e. Alf inside runs, Matt Jones edge runs, CT shotgun runs/draws.

Forget everything I wrote above, because I believe we CAN be better. So assuming we play up to our potential....

20-16 we beat the Bucs

Thank you for your posts here, 30gut. Please don't let the personal, non-football related attacks here drive you out, it would be our loss.

[skinsfaninok]

If we lose all those Wrs who do we replace them with?? U can't just let guys go

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Thank you for your posts here, 30gut. Please don't let the personal, non-football related attacks here drive you out, it would be our loss.

The problem is not his posts. In fact, I like the most recent one.

It's his uncalled for insults to anyone who who might have a different opinion about his posts that are the problem. See his last response to mredskins and you'll know what I'm talking about...

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we lose all those Wrs who do we replace them with?? U can't just let guys go

Well you still have Ross and Crowder, who I'm assuming they're keeping.

You really only need a #1 and a #2. Crowder is the slot guy, Ross can rotate in... Then you get a couple depth guys.. It's a reach but not totally impossible.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we lose all those Wrs who do we replace them with?? U can't just let guys go

I think you look at the price tag, game tape, and our win-loss record and it makes it easy call. We can get younger, cheaper, and better through the draft and free agency with McC making those personnel decisions.

[skinsfaninok]

I'm at drill this weekend I'll record the game httr hope they win

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think you look at the price tag, game tape, and our win-loss record and it makes it easy call. We can get younger, cheaper, and better through the draft and free agency with McC making those personnel decisions.

Who can we draft that would come in and play better than garcon ? In the 3rd or 4th round? Cuz on a team like this i know your not suggesting we spend a 1 or 2 maybe not even a 3 on a wr .....................

I'd be interested in the FA list and price tags for them this offseason, that could be interesting.

[Ruhskins]

Skins will probably win a close game making the same mistakes.

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[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Meks

Who can we draft that would come in and play better than garcon ? In the 3rd or 4th round? Cuz on a team like this i know your not suggesting we spend a 1 or 2 maybe not even a 3 on a wr .....................

I'd be interested in the FA list and price tags for them this offseason, that could be interesting.

Crowder is playing just a little below Garcon stat wise, as a slot receiver.

Garcon: 32 receptions, 294 yards, 3 TD
Crowder: 27 receptions, 244 yards, 0 TDs

And Crowder was a 4th round pick.


So I'd say it's possible. Especially with Scotty doing the scouting, a diamond in the rough is not out of the realm of possibility.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Well you still have Ross and Crowder, who I'm assuming they're keeping.

You really only need a #1 and a #2. Crowder is the slot guy, Ross can rotate in... Then you get a couple depth guys.. It's a reach but not totally impossible.

Even though a lot seem to hate Ryan Grant, I actually like him and expect him to develop into a good servicable WR

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Even though a lot seem to hate Ryan Grant, I actually like him and expect him to develop into a good servicable WR

I don't hate the guy. He's an average possession type of WR. Reminds me of Gaffney. I could see him coming back next year as well.