Samari or Freddy?

BigSKINBauer · 02-28-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

So tonight at midnight is the beginning of the free agency process eh? I can't wait to see what will happen tomorrow.

isn't wednesday at 12:00 am the beginning tommorrow at midnight not tonight, inform me if i'm wrong!

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 02:27 PM

I'm actually not sure. I thought it was tonight. Anybody else got some info on this?

Redskins_P · 02-28-2005, 02:27 PM

March 2nd is the official date...

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 02:28 PM

Ah... that's right. For some reason I thought today was the 1st. Argh.

BigSKINBauer · 02-28-2005, 02:28 PM

yeah thats tommorow night. one more day for snyder to work that magic

celts32 · 02-28-2005, 02:30 PM

It makes no f-ing sense to me how they can justify not paying Smoot and then paying more money for his older replacement. it would be one thing if they decided they could not afford Smoot and then signed a less expensive free agent replacement. This is just typical Redskins though, in valueing other teams players more than their own. How in the world can you say on one hand that giving Smoot his demands will cost you other players and then go out and spend even more money on a different CB. I really thought Coach Gibbs was going to put a stop to the revolving free agency door. I am really disapointed today, becasue this proves that the Redskins have not changed at all. They may be better coached now, but the front office thinking has not changed one bit. very disapointing...

Redskins_P · 02-28-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

It makes no f-ing sense to me how they can justify not paying Smoot and then paying more money for his older replacement. it would be one thing if they decided they could not afford Smoot and then signed a less expensive free agent replacement. This is just typical Redskins though, in valueing other teams players more than their own. How in the world can you say on one hand that giving Smoot his demands will cost you other players and then go out and spend even more money on a different CB. I really thought Coach Gibbs was going to put a stop to the revolving free agency door. I am really disapointed today, becasue this proves that the Redskins have not changed at all. They may be better coached now, but the front office thinking has not changed one bit. very disapointing...

I agree, but just to let you know....Rolle is only 2 years older than Smoot.

diehardskin2982 · 02-28-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by heybigstar

Smoot also has played for Williams. Last year!!

I was commenting on if Samari would fit in here as a skin on defense, I honestly don't feel one way or the other on this one. We don't know how much smoot was offered, and I think if Rolle was offered the same amount as smoot and he takes it, while smoot thinks he should get more, o well life goes on. Its a business and u can't pay for emotional attachments.

celts32 · 02-28-2005, 02:37 PM

I know Rolle is not over the hill, but he's still older. Two years is two full seasons. When you are only talking about 10-12 year carreers two years is a significant percentage of a players career. This makes no sense to me at all. Smoot you could say is still getting better in this league. Rolle has peeked and if he's better than Smoot now it's only marginally better. This is the kind of move that aggravates me to no end with the Redskins. No matter how much of a Redskins apologist anyone on this site is, there is just no way that anyone in their right mind can justify this move. When the hell will the Redskins stop valueing other teams players more than their own? They talk about core redskins and wanting to play here. It's a f-ing 2 way street Danny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Funbunchfan · 02-28-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CRT3

I used to really dislike the way Fred played. But after the last 2 seasons I have changed my mind. He has heart!!!

You cant play on heart alone . Smoot is the furthest from a shutdown corner and Rolle, when healthy is. Remember this he flourished under Greg Williams in Tennesee and he will again here. Admitadly I have been a Smoot hater for a long time now and now it looks like he is out. Bye bye smooty!
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bedlamVR · 02-28-2005, 02:39 PM

As I understand it Smoot and co. are official free agents tonight (on the 1st) and can sign with other teams tomorrow on the 2nd I think .

The coaches and everyone might want Smoot back but there has to be a plan B if we sit on our hands and wait for Smoot to decide or not to come back here any top FA will be gone and Smoot could turn aroundand simply say he has a better offer elsewhere, then we are up a certian creak without a padle. By at least geting your name in the hat for top CB prospects then it gives you a fall back position .

I truely think and it is not a Redskins thing here agents representing all kinds of players are waiting till free agency ...

celts32 · 02-28-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bedlamVR

As I understand it Smoot and co. are official free agents tonight (on the 1st) and can sign with other teams tomorrow on the 2nd I think .

The coaches and everyone might want Smoot back but there has to be a plan B if we sit on our hands and wait for Smoot to decide or not to come back here any top FA will be gone and Smoot could turn aroundand simply say he has a better offer elsewhere, then we are up a certian creak without a padle. By at least geting your name in the hat for top CB prospects then it gives you a fall back position .

I truely think and it is not a Redskins thing here agents representing all kinds of players are waiting till free agency ...

I would rather just start Harris if Smoot leaves than give Rolle a 15 mil bonus.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 02:46 PM

Most definitely. AND Williams has been speaking highly of Wilds as a backup.

Riggo44 · 02-28-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I would rather just start Harris if Smoot leaves than give Rolle a 15 mil bonus.

Me too!!!!

BigSKINBauer · 02-28-2005, 02:48 PM

I don't know how credible this report is and i didn't trust the coles one when i heard it and now it is accepted that it is not gonna happen. Remember we won't hurt our team expecially here. We may feel smoot is amazing and if we are gonna pay rolle more it must be because he is better or that if smoot has now fallen back on the deal. GW is not stupid we jumped 22 spots in d and that is his credit and he will not hinder the team. ROLLE is not "old" he may be older but not old. I think shawn springs is better than smoot and he is also older. Springs averaged 11.6666 games the three seasons before he got here and got the same amount of INTs this year as he did those three years. People said he couldn't replace Bailey but i would not take bailey back in replacement of springs. Rolle is also said to be faster than smoot and the speed on our defense is elite and will get better. Rolle also got the sacks with williams in the begginning, think of two CBs like that and we would have 2 shut down CBs along with the best free saftey and bowen or clark who are just amazing additions.

EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT, I TRUST THE TEAM ENOUGH NOT TO HURT ITSELF. THERE IS A REASON

View Poll Results: 2005 Starting CBs: Springs and...
Smoot	38	65.52%
Harris	4	6.90%
Wilds	5	8.62%
Rolle	7	12.07%
Other (who?)	4	6.90%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

02-28-2005, 02:27 PM	#62
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari or Freddy? I'm actually not sure. I thought it was tonight. Anybody else got some info on this? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 02:27 PM	#63
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Samari or Freddy? March 2nd is the official date...

02-28-2005, 02:28 PM	#64
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari or Freddy? Ah... that's right. For some reason I thought today was the 1st. Argh. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 02:28 PM	#65
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Samari or Freddy? yeah thats tommorow night. one more day for snyder to work that magic

02-28-2005, 02:30 PM	#66
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 52 Posts: 2,665	Re: Samari or Freddy? It makes no f-ing sense to me how they can justify not paying Smoot and then paying more money for his older replacement. it would be one thing if they decided they could not afford Smoot and then signed a less expensive free agent replacement. This is just typical Redskins though, in valueing other teams players more than their own. How in the world can you say on one hand that giving Smoot his demands will cost you other players and then go out and spend even more money on a different CB. I really thought Coach Gibbs was going to put a stop to the revolving free agency door. I am really disapointed today, becasue this proves that the Redskins have not changed at all. They may be better coached now, but the front office thinking has not changed one bit. very disapointing...

02-28-2005, 02:37 PM	#69
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 52 Posts: 2,665	Re: Samari or Freddy? I know Rolle is not over the hill, but he's still older. Two years is two full seasons. When you are only talking about 10-12 year carreers two years is a significant percentage of a players career. This makes no sense to me at all. Smoot you could say is still getting better in this league. Rolle has peeked and if he's better than Smoot now it's only marginally better. This is the kind of move that aggravates me to no end with the Redskins. No matter how much of a Redskins apologist anyone on this site is, there is just no way that anyone in their right mind can justify this move. When the hell will the Redskins stop valueing other teams players more than their own? They talk about core redskins and wanting to play here. It's a f-ing 2 way street Danny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-28-2005, 02:39 PM	#71
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	Re: Samari or Freddy? As I understand it Smoot and co. are official free agents tonight (on the 1st) and can sign with other teams tomorrow on the 2nd I think . The coaches and everyone might want Smoot back but there has to be a plan B if we sit on our hands and wait for Smoot to decide or not to come back here any top FA will be gone and Smoot could turn aroundand simply say he has a better offer elsewhere, then we are up a certian creak without a padle. By at least geting your name in the hat for top CB prospects then it gives you a fall back position . I truely think and it is not a Redskins thing here agents representing all kinds of players are waiting till free agency ...

02-28-2005, 02:46 PM	#73
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Samari or Freddy? Most definitely. AND Williams has been speaking highly of Wilds as a backup. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 02:48 PM	#75
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Samari or Freddy? I don't know how credible this report is and i didn't trust the coles one when i heard it and now it is accepted that it is not gonna happen. Remember we won't hurt our team expecially here. We may feel smoot is amazing and if we are gonna pay rolle more it must be because he is better or that if smoot has now fallen back on the deal. GW is not stupid we jumped 22 spots in d and that is his credit and he will not hinder the team. ROLLE is not "old" he may be older but not old. I think shawn springs is better than smoot and he is also older. Springs averaged 11.6666 games the three seasons before he got here and got the same amount of INTs this year as he did those three years. People said he couldn't replace Bailey but i would not take bailey back in replacement of springs. Rolle is also said to be faster than smoot and the speed on our defense is elite and will get better. Rolle also got the sacks with williams in the begginning, think of two CBs like that and we would have 2 shut down CBs along with the best free saftey and bowen or clark who are just amazing additions. EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT, I TRUST THE TEAM ENOUGH NOT TO HURT ITSELF. THERE IS A REASON

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