WTF @ Bills post game thread

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Positives? There aren't a lot, but there are some:

We're not the Giants (or 0-3).
There's 14 games left.
Undefeated vs the NFC/NFC East.
No injuries (that I'm aware of).

The obvious: It was a dreadful showing for the defense. The piss poor defense made Heinicke feel like he had to do it all. He forced things way too much. I can't fault him though - he's trying, and his receivers didn't help him much today.

Honestly, the way he plays he's going to be good for at least one, maybe two turnovers per game. Dude plays with his hair on fire, and I don't think he sees the whole field through the smoke. He's going to make some real good plays, and there's going to be head scratchers. He needs experience, and a defense that can stop the opponent from scoring on every drive.

I'm not ready to blow it all up like some are though. Everything wrong right now is fixable. Two losses to arguably the two best teams in the AFC right now is not the end of the world. Long way to go yet, and plenty of time to right the ship.

Let's see how they respond next week against the Falcons. That will tell us more about this team than what we saw today.

I'm not sure this is a positive for our mental health...

[FrenchSkin]

Sorry guys. I'm trying not to do it. But I don't think I can...

TOLD YALL LAST WEEK !

Seriously though, the doom and gloom after a loss may have looked bad, but this is what I felt this team was.
Managed to pull myself into some sort of hope before KO. But this defense is awful. I want no caviat added to it. They suck.

We might not get another W this year. 4 and 13 is my updated prediction.

[Chief X_Phackter]

It's better than the season ends today.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

It's better than the season ends today.

Is it? 1-2 vs 3-14?

Unless, of course, you are still holding out hope that huey duey and louie figure things out on the sidelines. Personally I think RR has shown for many years that he cannot. I think JDR has not evolved his defenses along with the game of football. I think Scott Turner doesn’t even belong in the league.

[FrenchSkin]

The OL is better than expected. Heinicke forced some throws but didn't play all that bad. He had several guys drop easy 1st down conversions on him.

Why does this defense sucks so much is an enigma at this point. Even last week in the deepest of my negativity I thought the DL played better than what was being said, but this week they completely disappeared. Against an OL that was having issues up until now.
Anyone in that DL squad not named Daron Payne has to take a look in the mirror and wake the F up, they played like freakin nuns. F em.

At some point coaching staff has to be held accountable. This defensive roster has too much talent to played that bad. The main weakness on paper is LB, and they had trillions of opportunities to do something about it during the offseason. No excuse for the DL and secondary underperforming so much. Is Jay Gruden still doing pre game speeches or what ?

Finally, I was defending Young the first 2 weeks, yes we needed more from him but he was making some plays. He can lick my asshole after yesterday's game. He didn't do shit. Not one play. Man the F up.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

The OL is better than expected. Heinicke forced some throws but didn't play all that bad. He had several guys drop easy 1st down conversions on him.

Why does this defense sucks so much is an enigma at this point. Even last week in the deepest of my negativity I thought the DL played better than what was being said, but this week they completely disappeared. Against an OL that was having issues up until now.
Anyone in that DL squad not named Daron Payne has to take a look in the mirror and wake the F up, they played like freakin nuns. F em.

At some point coaching staff has to be held accountable. This defensive roster has too much talent to played that bad. The main weakness on paper is LB, and they had trillions of opportunities to do something about it during the offseason. No excuse for the DL and secondary underperforming so much. Is Jay Gruden still doing pre game speeches or what ?

Finally, I was defending Young the first 2 weeks, yes we needed more from him but he was making some plays. He can lick my asshole after yesterday's game. He didn't do shit. Not one play. Man the F up.

This is in fact NOT TRUE. If you are better than you opponent then you would win your one on one matchups. We can't or don't do that. End of discussion. I will say it again, just cause you are drafted high does not mean you are a good NFL player.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is in fact NOT TRUE. If you are better than you opponent then you would win your one on one matchups. We can't or don't do that. End of discussion. I will say it again, just cause you are drafted high does not mean you are a good NFL player.

Oh I agree that they were crowned elite talent without having proved it. But the talent level on this roster, what we've seen some of them do, is not as atrociously bad as this D is playing.

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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Oh I agree that they were crowned elite talent without having proved it. But the talent level on this roster, what we've seen some of them do, is not as atrociously bad as this D is playing.

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While I believe it is true, they can play better, but only if they are playing a below average NFL QB. If they have to play a top 10 QB that has weapons they are simply not capable of shutting down that offense or QB. That seems to be the track record for this group.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

While I believe it is true, they can play better, but only if they are playing a below average NFL QB. If they have to play a top 10 QB that has weapons they are simply not capable of shutting down that offense or QB. That seems to be the track record for this group.

Which basically means we don't have shit unless the league splits us in to a lower tier and we are the NFL B Champs.

For the record the NFC East is pretty much the B division and we suck there too.

We can say it until we are blue in the face until Dan walks this franchise will always suck.

Just look at the last decade we have had great coaches and a QB1; all have left and we are still the shit show we have always been.

Frustrating.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is in fact NOT TRUE. If you are better than you opponent then you would win your one on one matchups. We can't or don't do that. End of discussion. I will say it again, just cause you are drafted high does not mean you are a good NFL player.

Coaching, coaching, coaching. Scheme, scheme, scheme.

[skinsfan69]

Is it too early for a 2022 draft thread? smh

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Is it too early for a 2022 draft thread? smh

If we lose to the Falcons I'll fire one up.

[skinsfaninok]

After ATL next week: NO, KC, GB, DEN, TB, CAR, SEA, LVR

BRUTAL

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

After ATL next week: NO, KC, GB, DEN, TB, CAR, SEA, LVR

BRUTAL

Atlanta will be real tough for us. There are no easy games when you are a bottom feeder. But yeah that stretch is going to be horrendous. Than the nfc east stretch which is always a struggle. I am telling you 5 wins is very ambitious thinking. Onto the 2022 draft thread I guess. Stud LT, or stud pass rusher im hoping for.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Atlanta will be real tough for us. There are no easy games when you are a bottom feeder. But yeah that stretch is going to be horrendous. Than the nfc east stretch which is always a struggle. I am telling you 5 wins is very ambitious thinking. Onto the 2022 draft thread I guess. Stud LT, or stud pass rusher im hoping for.

I think we should focus on QB in the draft.. As we have seen from some teams, franchise QBs can turn the team around. Look at Mahomes, Herbert, Jackson (I personally don't like him as QB but results is results), etc. If we continue to play like we played yesterday throughout the season - I think we will be in top 6-8 in the draft, which means we will have a chance to draft a QB. So far, it seems like WFT, Steelers, Texans, Lions, maybe Broncos and Panthers will need a new QB next year.