Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

The Goat · 10-02-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I want someone like Wade Phillips, who took a terrible 4-3 defense and turned into into a top 3-4 defense overnight.

I don't understand why we didn't grab Wade when Dallas canned him? Did he and Mike have a falling out after winning SBs together?

ArcticRed · 10-02-2012, 06:10 PM

I would be severely disappointed if we cut Cundiff based on Sundays performance. Everyone can have a "bad day". NFL kickers are no different. Just an inch off his mark on the ball or a slight shift on his approach can make for a "really bad day", like we observed on Sunday. However, he is a professional, so I expect him to bounce back and be consistent once more.

I also believe the Skins chose Cundiff because they expected the offense to be much improved under RGIII. They preferred the consistency of Cundiffs short and mid range kicks than the others kickers semi consistent all around kicking. Based on that idea, Cundiff is on a very short leash if continues to have "bad days".

CrustyRedskin · 10-02-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't understand why we didn't grab Wade when Dallas canned him? Did he and Mike have a falling out after winning SBs together?

I thought Greg Robinson was Mikes DC in Denver when they won the 2 SB's not Swade???? But i may be wrong.

MTK · 10-02-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't understand why we didn't grab Wade when Dallas canned him? Did he and Mike have a falling out after winning SBs together?

He wasn't the DC there when they won their SB's

FRPLG · 10-02-2012, 06:38 PM

Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?

DynamiteRave · 10-02-2012, 06:52 PM

I'm always iffy on Cundiff after he blew the Ravens AFC Championship chances last year, missing a... what do ya know... 31 yard FG.

Russian roulette.

But if this is the best we've got then... C'est la vie.

REDSKINS4ever · 10-02-2012, 08:39 PM

I don't consider Cundiff amongst the best NFL kickers. He's had problems throughout his career making long range kicks. I was surprised by how Mike Shahanan gave him the job after Graham Gano had won it fairly in training camp/preseason. Let's hope Shanahan's decision to release Gano in favor of Cundiff doesn't come back to bite us later on down the road.

Hog1 · 10-02-2012, 08:44 PM

While it is well known that BC is not the >50 yard Juggernaut. His accuracy under that is formidable.....only not last Sunday...

CRedskinsRule · 10-02-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I don't consider Cundiff amongst the best NFL kickers. He's had problems throughout his career making long range kicks. I was surprised by how Mike Shahanan gave him the job after Graham Gano had won it fairly in training camp/preseason. Let's hope Shanahan's decision to release Gano in favor of Cundiff doesn't come back to bite us later on down the road.

How could we ever say that it did. I was a big Gano fan (yo Gano), but seriously even if Cundiff missed. how would anyone be able to rue the fact that Gano wasn't kicking. He had not developed that much of a consistency to make us confident he would make one BC missed.

MTK · 10-02-2012, 08:59 PM

People sure have a short memory when it comes to Gano.

REDSKINS4ever · 10-02-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How could we ever say that it did. I was a big Gano fan (yo Gano), but seriously even if Cundiff missed. how would anyone be able to rue the fact that Gano wasn't kicking. He had not developed that much of a consistency to make us confident he would make one BC missed.

You're absolutely right about that. I just feel Gano would have made that 57 yarder, seeing as though he made a 59 yarder last season versus San Francisco.

SmootSmack · 10-02-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't understand why we didn't grab Wade when Dallas canned him? Did he and Mike have a falling out after winning SBs together?

Because the Redskins don't play in Houston.

CultBrennan59 · 10-02-2012, 11:46 PM

Two things:

1) Funny how week 1 Cundiff is 4-4 making field goals left and right and everyone here is "Wow we found our Kicker!" "Glad the Ravens got him!" to this past week "Cut this guy!!!" "We should have know after he missed that kick for the Ravens!!"

2) IF, and this is a big IF, Rex Ryan is fired this year, I think we should hire him the same day he is fired. Because I can really see the jets as a bottom 5 team this year.

hooskins · 10-02-2012, 11:59 PM

I've always been a gano backer but he was never Mr consistent. As many have said lets call it 1/3 and hopefully the misses are out of his system. No need to think competition already.

REDSKINS4ever · 10-03-2012, 12:06 AM

Billy Cundiff is definitely on the hot seat now. Not saying he would have been cut had he missed that last FG attempt, but that 1/3 outing still makes him appear suspect whether he made the game winning kick or not.

10-02-2012, 06:10 PM	#62
ArcticRed Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 46	Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut! I would be severely disappointed if we cut Cundiff based on Sundays performance. Everyone can have a "bad day". NFL kickers are no different. Just an inch off his mark on the ball or a slight shift on his approach can make for a "really bad day", like we observed on Sunday. However, he is a professional, so I expect him to bounce back and be consistent once more. I also believe the Skins chose Cundiff because they expected the offense to be much improved under RGIII. They preferred the consistency of Cundiffs short and mid range kicks than the others kickers semi consistent all around kicking. Based on that idea, Cundiff is on a very short leash if continues to have "bad days".

10-02-2012, 06:38 PM	#65
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 10,164	Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut! Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?

10-02-2012, 06:52 PM	#66
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 37 Posts: 16,867	Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut! I'm always iffy on Cundiff after he blew the Ravens AFC Championship chances last year, missing a... what do ya know... 31 yard FG. Russian roulette. But if this is the best we've got then... C'est la vie. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

10-02-2012, 08:39 PM	#67
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,009	Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut! I don't consider Cundiff amongst the best NFL kickers. He's had problems throughout his career making long range kicks. I was surprised by how Mike Shahanan gave him the job after Graham Gano had won it fairly in training camp/preseason. Let's hope Shanahan's decision to release Gano in favor of Cundiff doesn't come back to bite us later on down the road.

10-02-2012, 08:44 PM	#68
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut! While it is well known that BC is not the >50 yard Juggernaut. His accuracy under that is formidable.....only not last Sunday... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

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10-02-2012, 11:46 PM	#73
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut! Two things: 1) Funny how week 1 Cundiff is 4-4 making field goals left and right and everyone here is "Wow we found our Kicker!" "Glad the Ravens got him!" to this past week "Cut this guy!!!" "We should have know after he missed that kick for the Ravens!!" 2) IF, and this is a big IF, Rex Ryan is fired this year, I think we should hire him the same day he is fired. Because I can really see the jets as a bottom 5 team this year. __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

10-02-2012, 11:59 PM	#74
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	I've always been a gano backer but he was never Mr consistent. As many have said lets call it 1/3 and hopefully the misses are out of his system. No need to think competition already. __________________ Vacancy

10-03-2012, 12:06 AM	#75
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,009	Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut! Billy Cundiff is definitely on the hot seat now. Not saying he would have been cut had he missed that last FG attempt, but that 1/3 outing still makes him appear suspect whether he made the game winning kick or not.

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