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Old 08-28-2012, 10:31 AM   #1
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

Rackers has really fallen far, fast. A few years ago, he was one of the best in the league with Arizona.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:34 AM   #2
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

I don't get the "I don't like this move" sentiment. I mean I can see that this is a head-scratcher in some ways but it's not like we cut a pro-bowl kicker for a scrub. At worst this was a lateral move.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:34 AM   #3
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

Should have just kept Gano. At least he was young and possibly could have turned things around (which I honestly felt he was doing). Now we have an old, washed up kicker, who is no better.

Typical Redskins move if you ask me.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:39 AM   #4
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Should have just kept Gano. At least he was young and possibly could have turned things around (which I honestly felt he was doing). Now we have an old, washed up kicker, who is no better.

Typical Redskins move if you ask me.
32 honestly isn't "old" for a kicker. He is basically in his prime.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:41 AM   #5
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

shocked by the Gano love, but when we let Carlos walk, people rejoiced. strange.

undrafted, statistically poor kicker > probowl corner, for a team in desperate need of secondary help
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:12 AM   #6
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shocked by the Gano love, but when we let Carlos walk, people rejoiced. strange.

undrafted, statistically poor kicker > probowl corner, for a team in desperate need of secondary help
Because most teams have figured out Calos can't play zone. Put a play in that makes the defense want to shift to a zone scheme and you've gotten a first down plus against Carlos.

Hall is the opposite. But in any case Carlos was whiffing on plays a lot and relying on Safety help. Better he go to a team that could utilize his skills better.

Plus I don't think it was so much all the Redskins choice. Carlos had a big decision in it also and if I remember correctly he thought of leaving once before but stayed. All teams have to budget, look at the Jags and their RB. Carlos's problem was he felt he was not being respected by the team whether that was through money or coaching or playing I'm not sure.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:44 AM   #7
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

I'm not sure you could call this a "typical Redskins move"
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:47 AM   #8
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I'm not sure you could call this a "typical Redskins move"
I'd call that a typical fan reaction.
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I'd call that a typical fan reaction.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:46 AM   #10
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The thing with graham gano is that you could never sit back and say "Oh, he's got this one" because he would be streaky. He did improve though last year, but he still wasn't in the top tier of Kickers. Cundiff was, until that playoff miss. We shouldn't worry about him missing playoff field goals for us anytime soon, but we should also treat him like a more experienced Gano. But the one thing I always say about kickers "If you have to rely on them winning the game for you, then you're really not that good of an offense if you can't get TDs"

Now I know that quote is going to get criticized and draw uproar, but the fact of the matter is if your team has been not converting on 3rd and 4th and shorts and has been fumbling, throwing picks and allowing big plays on defense, yet your team is somehow in the game, where a field goal will either tie it or win it, and the kicker misses it, all the blame goes to the kicker instead of the rest of the teams players who missed up earlier big time in the game.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:46 AM   #11
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It makes sense. Cundiff it is.

Billy Cundiff is the Redskins' new kicker - NFC East Blog - ESPN
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:49 AM   #12
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What Graziano fails to understand or to point out that both kickers were not asked to do the same thing on kickoffs. Cundiff was allowed to boot it out the back as were the Skins wanted Gano to directional kick it with air so that the coverage team could pin inside the 20. THAT is why there is a difference in the touch backs.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:52 AM   #13
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What Graziano fails to understand or to point out that both kickers were not asked to do the same thing on kickoffs. Cundiff was allowed to boot it out the back as were the Skins wanted Gano to directional kick it with air so that the coverage team could pin inside the 20. THAT is why there is a difference in the touch backs.
More importantly, do the Skins realize this?
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:47 AM   #14
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

Definitely can. This is like Dallas getting rid of Flozell Adams for Alex Barron. You get rid of a guy, and replace him with someone who is no better. I'd rather have the younger kicker who looks like he's on the rise.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:53 AM   #15
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Definitely can. This is like Dallas getting rid of Flozell Adams for Alex Barron. You get rid of a guy, and replace him with someone who is no better. I'd rather have the younger kicker who looks like he's on the rise.
What's your point?
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