2024 Early Bird Draft Thread

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

The RG 3 comparison is very fair.
Both slightly built Uber athletic QBs that win the Heisman trophy.

I’m a die hard LSU fan and have watched every game. I invite you all to watch both FSU vs LSU games he played. They are the best referral of Daniels game.
You can see how raw, and poor QB skills he has, and how much of a run first athlete he is in the first FSU game. You can see how much he matures over the first year, and becomes a better QB in the second game.

He lost both games. Not only that, he was our played at the position by FSU.

He is a 1 read and tuck it QB, just like RG3. Cannot diagnose presnap read and go through the route tree progressions. He has his hot read and tucks it 9/10 plays.




I understand the excitement, but must present the caveat emptor.

HTTR

Well, if I my eyes are not deceiving me, I saw him make a beautiful slide after a long run. Something RG3 never, ever learned. So no, not at all like RG3.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

Well, if I my eyes are not deceiving me, I saw him make a beautiful slide after a long run. Something RG3 never, ever learned. So no, not at all like RG3.

You got me 🤷🏻*♂️👌🏻😂

[rocnrik]

It all depends on what we can get to trade down .. if we are talking Extra 1st , this years 2cnd & 3rd then we gotta do that ..All the QB except Williams are reaches at the number 2 pick .. One of them will bust and the other will be average at best . When we can take 10 year pro bowl tackle and with extra pick solidify the O line for years ..( get 3 very low risk top starters for one player that is a 50/50 chance of not working out . I would take that and draft a Bo Nix in the 2cnd/3rd round .. we have options ( maybe bears don't draft Williams and he is there ) I realize all picks are Risk however it seems QB is the hardest to get right ..

[davy]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

It all depends on what we can get to trade down .. if we are talking Extra 1st , this years 2cnd & 3rd then we gotta do that ..All the QB except Williams are reaches at the number 2 pick .. One of them will bust and the other will be average at best . When we can take 10 year pro bowl tackle and with extra pick solidify the O line for years ..( get 3 very low risk top starters for one player that is a 50/50 chance of not working out . I would take that and draft a Bo Nix in the 2cnd/3rd round .. we have options ( maybe bears don't draft Williams and he is there ) I realize all picks are Risk however it seems QB is the hardest to get right ..

Agree almost 100%

Williams is not worthy of 2 overall either.

[Redskin Jim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?2022
v=xg83OU1s5Hg&pp=ygUVamF5ZGVuIGRhbmllbHMgdnMgZnN1

2023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifR3Qqjk66M&t=27s&pp=ygUaSmF5ZGVuIGRhbmllb HMgdnMgZnN1IDIwMjM%3D

[Redskin Jim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jky2...p=QAFIAQ%3D%3D

Auburn game 2023

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jky2...p=QAFIAQ%3D%3D

Auburn game 2023

If you meant this tape to illustrate your negative points about JD it doesn't. For example, numerous plays on this tape clearly show him going through his progressions in the pocket. Also, going into his final season, he became laser focused on improving some of the deficiencies in his game and his body in an effort to get ready for the pro game. His HC said that JD routinely beat him into the training facility every morning at 5:00 A.M. and he made great strides. This young man is very talented, smart, coachable, and dedicated to work hard to get better. He has a big upside to his game.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

If you meant this tape to illustrate your negative points about JD it doesn't. For example, numerous plays on this tape clearly show him going through his progressions in the pocket. Also, going into his final season, he became laser focused on improving some of the deficiencies in his game and his body in an effort to get ready for the pro game. His HC said that JD routinely beat him into the training facility every morning at 5:00 A.M. and he made great strides. This young man is very talented, smart, coachable, and dedicated to work hard to get better. He has a big upside to his game.

I have no questions about his work ethic, character, or elite athletic ability.
I’m telling you, as someone who has watched every game he played at LSU, You are getting RG3.
As long as you go into it with eyes wide open, not butterflies in your stomach and head in the clouds, then you have made an informed decision. But, like RG3 I don’t believe he will become an elite passer. He is a RPO quarterback who’s first instinct it his legs.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

I have no questions about his work ethic, character, or elite athletic ability.
I’m telling you, as someone who has watched every game he played at LSU, You are getting RG3.
As long as you go into it with eyes wide open, not butterflies in your stomach and head in the clouds, then you have made an informed decision. But, like RG3 I don’t believe he will become an elite passer. He is a RPO quarterback who’s first instinct it his legs.

But he is coachable and he learns fast. RGIII and his father actually met with the Skins HC and told the man which plays RGIII would not run.

I also noticed that JD was learning to get what he could out of a scramble and then slide or run out of bounds. RGIII couldn't even learn how to slide properly.

JD throws a gorgeous deep ball and he looks to be an accurate passer on other routes. With his work ethic and talent, I think he can become a top passer.

He may remind you of RGIII now but in time he may surpass what RGIII could have become.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

But he is coachable and he learns fast. RGIII and his father actually met with the Skins HC and told the man which plays RGIII would not run.

I also noticed that JD was learning to get what he could out of a scramble and then slide or run out of bounds. RGIII couldn't even learn how to slide properly.

JD throws a gorgeous deep ball and he looks to be an accurate passer on other routes. With his work ethic and talent, I think he can become a top passer.

He may remind you of RGIII now but in time he may surpass what RGIII could have become.

Every thing you say here is fair, and I applaud your optimism.

For me, it boils down to this. Jayden Daniels is not a ready made NFL QB. By your own optimistic opinion, you think he may someday mature to be.

Now ask yourself this, is a project QB worth the #2 pick. Before you answer this, know that the #2 pick MUST BE a slam dunk. (Think how whiffing on Chase Young instead of picking Herbert or Tua sunk our ship as opposed to steep rising of fortunes)

Now, assuming that you see the logical fallacy of project QB at #2 is a huge gamble, but the VALUE of trading some other poor bastards that are enamored with said pick. That pick is Uber valuable, and can be parlayed into multiple high value picks that can immediately rebuild our team in a new and favorable position.

Just my 2 cents. HTTR

[Redskin Jim]

Vs Alabama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SybRHCDx_ac

[That Guy]

RG3 also came into the league with two defective knees.

[That Guy]

so what? never draft a QB?

there's never really a super fire pick. Aaron Rogers fell to 26, purdy was last, ryan leaf flamed out, peyton started 1-15.

If you don't have a QB and do nothing to get a QB, you're guaranteeing another tanked season. And I doubt your odds of hitting go up by waiting until the 2nd or 3rd round.

Rebuilding without a plan at QB isn't great, and there's no guarantees we'll be in a better position to get "the guy" next year.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by That Guy

so what? never draft a QB?

there's never really a super fire pick. Aaron Rogers fell to 26, purdy was last, ryan leaf flamed out, peyton started 1-15.

If you don't have a QB and do nothing to get a QB, you're guaranteeing another tanked season. And I doubt your odds of hitting go up by waiting until the 2nd or 3rd round.

Rebuilding without a plan at QB isn't great, and there's no guarantees we'll be in a better position to get "the guy" next year.

I don't think anyone's saying that, but if the consensus at Commies Park is that none of the top 3 qb's are worth a top 2 pick then look at backup plans like trading down, etc. I'm sure there's a qb they are bound to like in the draft. I'm starting to lean in this direction too - all of them have flaws, but some are fixable and some aren't. Whatever Peters and co. decide I trust them.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I want Storm Duck on my wall, I need Storm Duck on my wall.

2. Jayden Daniels - QB - LSU
36. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. - LB - Clemson
40. Tyler Nubin - S - Minnesota
67. Christian Haynes - OG - UConn
100. Sataoa Laumea - OT - Utah
102. Drake Nugent - OC - Michigan
137. Dallin Holker - TE - Colorado State
180. Cedric Johnson - EDGE - Ole Miss
219. Storm Duck - CB - Louisville