The official 2008 draft discussion thread

Schneed10 · 04-26-2008, 10:41 PM

May I remind everyone who's concerned about us not getting help along the lines...

THE DRAFT IS NOT OVER.

We have a 3rd and a 4th rounder, rounds where you can typically find very talented guards. Jumping all over the front office at this point is borderline idiotic. Wait until the draft is over.

SmootSmack · 04-26-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Devin Thomas played junior collage football before playing two season for the Spartans. What that tells me he is hungry and wants to play. Plus the kind of numbers he put up last year were not good but exceptional.

The draft is a crapshoot but Thomas is a good pick in the 2nd round.

And some argue that he doesn't have much experience. But you know what his college career is just like...Chad Johnson. And say what you will about CJ off the field, I don't know that we'd have a problem with his on-field production.

12thMan · 04-26-2008, 10:41 PM

I think if you look at the picks in the context of last year's production and not perceived needs, they absolutely make sense.

As it's been mentioned here already, our red-zone offense was putrid (sp) last year. Horrible. Morever, we were deep into the season before we saw a touchdown from a wideout? No way we can keep up with the likes of the Giants and the Cowboys this year if we struggle like that again. So from that perspective the picks make a lot of sense.

SmootSmack · 04-26-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

May I remind everyone who's concerned about us not getting help along the lines...

THE DRAFT IS NOT OVER.

We have a 3rd and a 4th rounder, rounds where you can typically find very talented guards. Jumping all over the front office at this point is borderline idiotic. Wait until the draft is over.

Definitely too early to panic.

wilsowilso · 04-26-2008, 10:43 PM

I have to say I liked the buckshot approach. My favorite pick was the TE Davis. Tomorrow we have to draft on the LINE O or D I really don't care and after that some linebackers.

EXoffender · 04-26-2008, 10:44 PM

Let's get the polls up. Grade each pick!

wilsowilso · 04-26-2008, 10:46 PM

Anyone who thinks they can predict with any confidence these young wr's translation or transition to the nfl is a joker.

12thMan · 04-26-2008, 10:46 PM

On defense you have to figure, London Fletcher is one of the most durable guys in the league and arguably had his best season as a pro last year. While the defense could use some depth and a big DE coming off the edge to compliment Carter, I'm okay with some depth being added in the later rounds.

I think the key on defense is getting back both Carlos Rogers and Rocky Mac. I'm not sure what the time table is there, but it's possible the FO feels like they'll be ready to sooner than what's being reported.

cobracai1 · 04-26-2008, 10:46 PM

Hey Im new to this board. Really interesting posts. I really like all our picks today. I think that its hard to judge a pick based on whether we already have someone great in that position since situations occur (injuries). Davis is an animal and I really believe that the two receivers in time can be at least solid contributors. But I guess time will tell.

Swarley · 04-26-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think if you look at the picks in the context of last year's production and not perceived needs, they absolutely make sense.

As it's been mentioned here already, our red-zone offense was putrid (sp) last year. Horrible. Morever, we were deep into the season before we saw a touchdown from a wideout? No way we can keep up with the likes of the Giants and the Cowboys this year if we struggle like that again. So from that perspective the picks make a lot of sense.

very good point, and I completely agree

SmootSmack · 04-26-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

Let's get the polls up. Grade each pick!

I think we'll grade the draft as a whole tomorrow

TheSmurfs22 · 04-26-2008, 10:48 PM

That is right the Draft is not over and it is definitely not over for the Skins. I do not have a crystal ball but hopefully these guys will do a good job in DC. The Draft and where you fall in the Draft does not guarantee your success in the NFL (Think Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf or Desmond Howard).

SmootSmack · 04-26-2008, 10:49 PM

It's probably been mentioned already but Thomas also adds a lot of value as a return man

Schneed10 · 04-26-2008, 10:50 PM

On WRs, ask yourself this...

Do the Redskins currently have a #1 receiver?

Because not every team in the NFL does. Just because you're the top WR on your team doesn't make you a true #1, the kind of guy who can consistently and reliably force the defense to alter their defensive scheme to account for his talent.

I don't think Moss is a #1. When he's fully healthy he's very dangerous and teams have to put a safety overtop. But he's hurt so often that in many games he's not scary to a defense.

Furthermore, after Moss, do we even have a #2? ARE, to me, is a #3. After him, we have nothing. NOTHING. And if you try to tell me we have Anthony Mix, I'm going to unleash the hounds on you so hard you'll wish your screen name was jsarno.

We are in desperate need of WRs. Picking two, especially these two who fell further than they should, was brilliant drafting.

12thMan · 04-26-2008, 10:52 PM

The more I think about it, the more I love the Davis pick. Love it. Understandably folks are grading that pick in the context of, "we have Chris Cooley, why waste a pick there?".

I really believe this is going to put a lot of pressure on defenses to dial nickel or dime coverages to cover both Cooley and Davis. Hell, Cooley was getting it in done with no help last year.

Of all the picks, I think Davis might be the steal of the draft.

View Poll Results: WTF Pick of Day One
WR Devin Thomas (34)	18	12.00%
TE Fred Davis (48)	95	63.33%
WR Malcolm Kelly (51)	37	24.67%
Voters: 150. You may not vote on this poll

04-26-2008, 10:41 PM	#691
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread May I remind everyone who's concerned about us not getting help along the lines... THE DRAFT IS NOT OVER. We have a 3rd and a 4th rounder, rounds where you can typically find very talented guards. Jumping all over the front office at this point is borderline idiotic. Wait until the draft is over. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

04-26-2008, 10:41 PM	#693
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread I think if you look at the picks in the context of last year's production and not perceived needs, they absolutely make sense. As it's been mentioned here already, our red-zone offense was putrid (sp) last year. Horrible. Morever, we were deep into the season before we saw a touchdown from a wideout? No way we can keep up with the likes of the Giants and the Cowboys this year if we struggle like that again. So from that perspective the picks make a lot of sense.

04-26-2008, 10:43 PM	#695
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread I have to say I liked the buckshot approach. My favorite pick was the TE Davis. Tomorrow we have to draft on the LINE O or D I really don't care and after that some linebackers.

04-26-2008, 10:44 PM	#696
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread Let's get the polls up. Grade each pick!

04-26-2008, 10:46 PM	#697
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread Anyone who thinks they can predict with any confidence these young wr's translation or transition to the nfl is a joker.

04-26-2008, 10:46 PM	#698
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread On defense you have to figure, London Fletcher is one of the most durable guys in the league and arguably had his best season as a pro last year. While the defense could use some depth and a big DE coming off the edge to compliment Carter, I'm okay with some depth being added in the later rounds. I think the key on defense is getting back both Carlos Rogers and Rocky Mac. I'm not sure what the time table is there, but it's possible the FO feels like they'll be ready to sooner than what's being reported.

04-26-2008, 10:46 PM	#699
cobracai1 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Georgetown Posts: 84	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread Hey Im new to this board. Really interesting posts. I really like all our picks today. I think that its hard to judge a pick based on whether we already have someone great in that position since situations occur (injuries). Davis is an animal and I really believe that the two receivers in time can be at least solid contributors. But I guess time will tell.

04-26-2008, 10:48 PM	#702
TheSmurfs22 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Staunton, VA Posts: 1,261	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread That is right the Draft is not over and it is definitely not over for the Skins. I do not have a crystal ball but hopefully these guys will do a good job in DC. The Draft and where you fall in the Draft does not guarantee your success in the NFL (Think Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf or Desmond Howard).

04-26-2008, 10:49 PM	#703
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread It's probably been mentioned already but Thomas also adds a lot of value as a return man __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-26-2008, 10:50 PM	#704
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread On WRs, ask yourself this... Do the Redskins currently have a #1 receiver? Because not every team in the NFL does. Just because you're the top WR on your team doesn't make you a true #1, the kind of guy who can consistently and reliably force the defense to alter their defensive scheme to account for his talent. I don't think Moss is a #1. When he's fully healthy he's very dangerous and teams have to put a safety overtop. But he's hurt so often that in many games he's not scary to a defense. Furthermore, after Moss, do we even have a #2? ARE, to me, is a #3. After him, we have nothing. NOTHING. And if you try to tell me we have Anthony Mix, I'm going to unleash the hounds on you so hard you'll wish your screen name was jsarno. We are in desperate need of WRs. Picking two, especially these two who fell further than they should, was brilliant drafting. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

04-26-2008, 10:52 PM	#705
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: The official 2008 draft discussion thread The more I think about it, the more I love the Davis pick. Love it. Understandably folks are grading that pick in the context of, "we have Chris Cooley, why waste a pick there?". I really believe this is going to put a lot of pressure on defenses to dial nickel or dime coverages to cover both Cooley and Davis. Hell, Cooley was getting it in done with no help last year. Of all the picks, I think Davis might be the steal of the draft.

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