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Old 08-31-2021, 10:24 AM   #1
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Old 08-31-2021, 12:03 PM   #2
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He gets credit for completing fucking up a withdrawal, gets US military killed, drone bombing an innocent family, leaving stranded Americans in harms way, abandoning allies, lying to the American people, etc

Continue…Sunnyside because somehow you are convinced it’s more important to spin this as a political victory than anything else

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Old 08-31-2021, 12:06 PM   #3
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He gets credit for completing fucking up a withdrawal, gets US military killed, drone bombing an innocent family, leaving stranded Americans in harms way, abandoning allies, lying to the American people, etc

Continue…Sunnyside because somehow you are convinced it’s more important to spin this as a political victory than anything else

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These things only bother you when its not Trump. You have zero credibility for your disgust Chico.

A trumper who is up in arms about a president who lies. Hysterical.
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Old 08-31-2021, 02:20 PM   #4
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These things only bother you when its not Trump. You have zero credibility for your disgust Chico.

A trumper who is up in arms about a president who lies. Hysterical.
This routine of trumper this and that, these insults has never matched my actual positions or addressed the data/facts i present here.

When you go for insults like these it only strengthens my arguments.

And your a fucking dickface for the number 1 draft position in fantasy. Don’t squander the opportunity to take Saquon Barkley. He’s the top rated player in the draft
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Old 08-31-2021, 04:07 PM   #5
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This routine of trumper this and that, these insults has never matched my actual positions or addressed the data/facts i present here.

When you go for insults like these it only strengthens my arguments.

And your a fucking dickface for the number 1 draft position in fantasy. Don’t squander the opportunity to take Saquon Barkley. He’s the top rated player in the draft

A) how is trumper an insult? It is just a name for someone who sides with Trump all the time. I honestly did not mean it as an insult. I think it’s hysterical that a trumper - ie someone who supports trump is up in arms about a potus lying. Come on man. Gotta admit thats ironic.

B) I didn’t even know about getting first pick. Will go nice with my first place trophy.
I dont even see the draft order? Dont fuckin fuck with me about such an honor!
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Old 08-31-2021, 04:47 PM   #6
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A) how is trumper an insult? It is just a name for someone who sides with Trump all the time. I honestly did not mean it as an insult. I think it’s hysterical that a trumper - ie someone who supports trump is up in arms about a potus lying. Come on man. Gotta admit thats ironic.

B) I didn’t even know about getting first pick. Will go nice with my first place trophy.
I dont even see the draft order? Dont fuckin fuck with me about such an honor!
I’m constantly amazed y’all mention him over and over again…much more I have ever done. Y’all miss him, I get it.

Like i said, you know ya got nothing of substance when you go with it. It’s very G1 like.
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Old 09-01-2021, 08:58 AM   #7
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This routine of trumper this and that, these insults has never matched my actual positions or addressed the data/facts i present here.

When you go for insults like these it only strengthens my arguments.

You have no argument you never do , you act like a petulant child ,your response's and points of view are very trump like which is ignorant .You rarely address facts .Face it your position if that's what you want to call it is anti American.
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Old 08-31-2021, 12:22 PM   #8
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He gets credit for completing fucking up a withdrawal, gets US military killed, drone bombing an innocent family, leaving stranded Americans in harms way, abandoning allies, lying to the American people, etc

Continue…Sunnyside because somehow you are convinced it’s more important to spin this as a political victory than anything else

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Its a victory for the American people and our tax dollars.

Less international in perpetuity engagements is a good thing. Im sure some new crisis will emerge in short time needing tax payers to line the pockets of Blackwater and other in perpetuity GI Joe LARP contractors.
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Old 08-31-2021, 01:06 PM   #9
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I....Im sure some new crisis will emerge in short time needing tax payers to line the pockets of Blackwater and other in perpetuity GI Joe LARP contractors.
Probably originating from Afghanistan which will cost 100-1000 times what we were paying to maintain the small garrison we had been maintaining in Afghanistan.
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Old 08-31-2021, 01:21 PM   #10
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Wow I guess some of the parents of the military personnel killed last week called the President an incompetent fool to his face. I think they should just have refused to meet him (as some did) if they couldn't control their emotions.

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Old 08-31-2021, 08:57 PM   #11
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Imbecilic’: Ex-UK leader Tony Blair slams Afghan withdrawal

“The abandonment of Afghanistan and its people is tragic, dangerous, unnecessary, not in their interests and not in ours,”


.....Blair also accused U.S. President Joe Biden of being “in obedience to an imbecilic political slogan about ending ‘the forever wars’, as if our engagement in 2021 was remotely comparable to our commitment 20 or even 10 years ago.”....

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...63fc080c40ed31
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:06 AM   #12
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I'm not jumping in this debate on whether we should've left anymore, I've already said my piece on it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...dlT?li=BBnb7Kz

I did find this interesting though.

The question is - assuming all of our gear left behind was stuff we gave to the ANA to help them - would you rather have taken back all that gear when we left or just never gave it to them in the first place at all? Because either option basically guarantees they fold - whereas our whole strategy seemed to be arm them and train them to defend the nation long enough for us to get out.

In hindsight yes it's obviously a failure on our part to underestimate how many actually cared about fighting the Taliban but we don't have the luxury of knowing hindsight when we're making plans to withdraw.
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I'm not jumping in this debate on whether we should've left anymore, I've already said my piece on it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...dlT?li=BBnb7Kz

I did find this interesting though.

The question is - assuming all of our gear left behind was stuff we gave to the ANA to help them - would you rather have taken back all that gear when we left or just never gave it to them in the first place at all? Because either option basically guarantees they fold - whereas our whole strategy seemed to be arm them and train them to defend the nation long enough for us to get out.

In hindsight yes it's obviously a failure on our part to underestimate how many actually cared about fighting the Taliban but we don't have the luxury of knowing hindsight when we're making plans to withdraw.
I said something similar. People (anti Biden) say we fucked up and yes the withdrawal was a massive fuck up I make no excuses for it. The equipment argument is BS .We left it to the Afghan Army and they deserted their own people they left it not the US. What we did leave they either can not use or it was disabled .
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Old 09-02-2021, 11:12 AM   #14
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https://www.reuters.com/world/exclus...on-2021-08-31/

Exclusive: Before Afghan collapse, Biden pressed Ghani to ‘change perception’

Release the tapes and transcripts!

Am I doing it right?

Biden is a disgrace here…bad look. Biden is asking him to lie
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Old 09-04-2021, 01:26 AM   #15
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Not 1 comment about Biden telling the Afghan president to lie about the facts on the ground in July.

Apparently only calls to Ukraine matter. Got it.
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