Redskins trade for Alex Smith

Giantone · 02-19-2018, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

Kirk also didnt play von Miller twice alot of these years lol, ok.

KC all so didn't have Andy Reid as a coach,pretty sure he help Smith be a better QB. Gruden is a good coach but Reid is a better coach.

Meks · 02-20-2018, 03:32 AM

I'm almost at the end of the gruden rope. We'll see what happens

WillH · 02-22-2018, 11:36 PM

Man I really can't wait to see what other talent they put around Smith and what they'll do with it. Dudes supposedly a genius, and apparently had more and more say in the offense with trust from Reid. I'm hopeful that a smart QB with buy in and Gruden together focused on building something can become one of the more creative duos. I think they've the potential, Gruden has a good track record with QBs and seems to scheme well, I'm curious to see what he can do now with a veteran QB that has gotten better throughout his career and has total buy in.

What additional weapons do you want around him next year?

I was getting a little hyped on Landry, but that ship has sailed. There's not allot in Free Agency, I like cooleys take on Dion Lewis, but there's also a lot of talent in the draft.

Christian Kirk, Sony Michel, Mark Andrews are the guys from the draft I'd get really excited about and that I think would play to Smith's strengths historically.

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Schneed10 · 02-22-2018, 11:54 PM

A healthy Jordan Reed would go a long way. And then some speed on the outside.

FrenchSkin · 02-23-2018, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WillH

Man I really can't wait to see what other talent they put around Smith and what they'll do with it. Dudes supposedly a genius, and apparently had more and more say in the offense with trust from Reid. I'm hopeful that a smart QB with buy in and Gruden together focused on building something can become one of the more creative duos. I think they've the potential, Gruden has a good track record with QBs and seems to scheme well, I'm curious to see what he can do now with a veteran QB that has gotten better throughout his career and has total buy in.

What additional weapons do you want around him next year?

I was getting a little hyped on Landry, but that ship has sailed. There's not allot in Free Agency, I like cooleys take on Dion Lewis, but there's also a lot of talent in the draft.

Christian Kirk, Sony Michel, Mark Andrews are the guys from the draft I'd get really excited about and that I think would play to Smith's strengths historically.

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I was high on Landry too. Curious on who we're going to get. We need a number one WR, badly.
Not sure we're confident we're going to find him in the draft, plug and play rookie WRs are not easy to find. Watkins? Richardson? Marqise Lee?

I just saw Jeremy Hill should be available (Cincinnati Bengals pending free agent Jeremy Hill tweets goodbye to Cincy) he could be a viable option, right?

WillH · 02-23-2018, 08:14 AM

Hills not a bad option, but I almost prefer the draft. There's a lot of midrange talent every year (although we've whiffed on a few) and it's clearly a young fresh and healthy mans position.

WR will be tricky for sure. I don't think there's a slam dunk number 1 available in FA or draft.

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FrenchSkin · 02-23-2018, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WillH

Hills not a bad option, but I almost prefer the draft. There's a lot of midrange talent every year (although we've whiffed on a few) and it's clearly a young fresh and healthy mans position.

WR will be tricky for sure. I don't think there's a slam dunk number 1 available in FA or draft.

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True.

But I just feel like we need playmakers on defense (NT/DT, CB) and I'm not really wowed by anybody available, so I'd rather keep as many picks as possible for this side of the ball.

And on offense we can't afford average guys or gambles, so if there are guys they really like at WR and RB, I want them to spend what it takes to get them.

skinsfaninok · 02-23-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

A healthy Jordan Reed would go a long way. And then some speed on the outside.

Now we both know his ass ain't staying healthy but of course we all would love to see it. Smith loves TE's expect Davis and Sprinkle to catch a lot of balls

CRedskinsRule · 02-23-2018, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Now we both know his ass ain't staying healthy but of course we all would love to see it. Smith loves TE's expect Davis and Sprinkle to catch a lot of balls

I am actually hopeful that this lost season will have given his body the chance to get right that it needed

SolidSnake84 · 02-24-2018, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am actually hopeful that this lost season will have given his body the chance to get right that it needed

I hope for it too, but i just think that some guys are glass boned and no matter what kind of offseason, training they do, their bodies will just never be up to par on game day.

I know he is only 27 but with all of his various injuries realistically his body is probably a lot closer to being 37. When healthy the guy is for sure a difference maker, but he has averaged like 10 games over five seasons. Does anyone know where we are on him contract wise? Can the skins move on from him without a huge hit after this year if he has another injury plagued season?

Dan73 · 02-24-2018, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I hope for it too, but i just think that some guys are glass boned and no matter what kind of offseason, training they do, their bodies will just never be up to par on game day.

I know he is only 27 but with all of his various injuries realistically his body is probably a lot closer to being 37. When healthy the guy is for sure a difference maker, but he has averaged like 10 games over five seasons. Does anyone know where we are on him contract wise? Can the skins move on from him without a huge hit after this year if he has another injury plagued season?

I would sign trey burton. He is younger and I think a better blocker but has speed.

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Schneed10 · 02-24-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I hope for it too, but i just think that some guys are glass boned and no matter what kind of offseason, training they do, their bodies will just never be up to par on game day.

I know he is only 27 but with all of his various injuries realistically his body is probably a lot closer to being 37. When healthy the guy is for sure a difference maker, but he has averaged like 10 games over five seasons. Does anyone know where we are on him contract wise? Can the skins move on from him without a huge hit after this year if he has another injury plagued season?

Yeah we can escape. In 2019 he will count 10M against the cap, but if we cut him next March he would only count 3.5M in dead money, meaning we would save 6.5M in cap space. Say what you want about Bruce, he has earned it in many ways, but if he and Schaffer are good for anything it's making sure contracts are structured in such a way that we can escape.

Schneed10 · 02-24-2018, 01:37 PM

All that said I think a bounce back season is in store. He is fragile for sure, but last year was abnormal even for him. Usually he misses 2 - 4 games. Last year missed 10.

Even if he gets back to playing just 12 games it's a big impact on our offense.

Schneed10 · 02-24-2018, 01:40 PM

Chris Thompson too. Between him and Reed, safeties have to be mindful because linebackers aren't fast enough for either of them. Gruden can put safeties in a bind with either player in a myriad of ways, it loosens the coverage against the WRs. If we manage to add that one deep threat then everything gets easier for everyone, including Doctson.

sdskinsfan2001 · 02-24-2018, 02:18 PM

If we add a legit receiver, we get solid play from someone at LG, and we stay healthy i think we'll have a top 10 offense. Add a stud RB and it could be top 5.

Now that's a few things that need to go right but its not out of the realm of possibilities.

I think our redzone offense is greatly upgraded with AS, if we can get a good RB, we should be punching in a lot more 6's.

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02-20-2018, 03:32 AM	#677
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 39 Posts: 5,605	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith I'm almost at the end of the gruden rope. We'll see what happens __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

02-22-2018, 11:36 PM	#678
WillH The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,590	Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith Man I really can't wait to see what other talent they put around Smith and what they'll do with it. Dudes supposedly a genius, and apparently had more and more say in the offense with trust from Reid. I'm hopeful that a smart QB with buy in and Gruden together focused on building something can become one of the more creative duos. I think they've the potential, Gruden has a good track record with QBs and seems to scheme well, I'm curious to see what he can do now with a veteran QB that has gotten better throughout his career and has total buy in. What additional weapons do you want around him next year? I was getting a little hyped on Landry, but that ship has sailed. There's not allot in Free Agency, I like cooleys take on Dion Lewis, but there's also a lot of talent in the draft. Christian Kirk, Sony Michel, Mark Andrews are the guys from the draft I'd get really excited about and that I think would play to Smith's strengths historically. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk __________________ You like that! You like that!

02-22-2018, 11:54 PM	#679
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith A healthy Jordan Reed would go a long way. And then some speed on the outside. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

02-23-2018, 08:14 AM	#681
WillH The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,590	Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith Hills not a bad option, but I almost prefer the draft. There's a lot of midrange talent every year (although we've whiffed on a few) and it's clearly a young fresh and healthy mans position. WR will be tricky for sure. I don't think there's a slam dunk number 1 available in FA or draft. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk __________________ You like that! You like that!

02-24-2018, 01:37 PM	#688
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith All that said I think a bounce back season is in store. He is fragile for sure, but last year was abnormal even for him. Usually he misses 2 - 4 games. Last year missed 10. Even if he gets back to playing just 12 games it's a big impact on our offense. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

02-24-2018, 01:40 PM	#689
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith Chris Thompson too. Between him and Reed, safeties have to be mindful because linebackers aren't fast enough for either of them. Gruden can put safeties in a bind with either player in a myriad of ways, it loosens the coverage against the WRs. If we manage to add that one deep threat then everything gets easier for everyone, including Doctson. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

02-24-2018, 02:18 PM	#690
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 20,000	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith If we add a legit receiver, we get solid play from someone at LG, and we stay healthy i think we'll have a top 10 offense. Add a stud RB and it could be top 5. Now that's a few things that need to go right but its not out of the realm of possibilities. I think our redzone offense is greatly upgraded with AS, if we can get a good RB, we should be punching in a lot more 6's. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

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